Daylilies forum: pine straw help

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hines
Apr 10, 2013 7:06 AM CST
the new person who has put pine straw down for our hot summers has almost covered the tops of the daylily leaves it seems too much to me it is thick and i dont think its corect but i dont know help do i remove some or is it okay thanks i should have said they are doing the roses and all the flower beds which is fine but should the daylily beds be that thick and deep in pinestraw
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Apr 10, 2013 8:42 AM CST
I have not used pine straw, but it might help others if they knew what area of the country you are in (zone or state) and maybe you could get a photo of how they applied it?

Many people that put down regular bark mulch keep it away from the plant a few inches.

I am sure some will be along to help soon!
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gardenglory
Apr 10, 2013 8:58 AM CST
Ive been to gardens down here with pine straw. It doesnt seem it would be a problem, as pine straw doesnt pack down like leaves or mulch, and the crown can still breath, and not rot.

hines
Apr 10, 2013 9:42 AM CST
im in statesboro ga zone 8 45 miles from sav ga it piled all around the daylilies they say it will pack down and be fine its just thick and i was worried maybe the pine straw is fine i hope thank you for any help i

hines
Apr 10, 2013 9:45 AM CST
thats what i was trying to say thar if it was so thick and so high i dont know if the pine straw will create crown rot oh to pay a fortune to create crown rot thats my fear thank you for the right words
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Casshigh
Apr 12, 2013 10:41 AM CST
In NW GA we have replaced pine bark nuggets with pine straw, maybe 3-4 years now. No crown rot that we know about from straw. We got 315 bales, I only have about 300 still to spread! Foliage will grow up through the straw, if it's not too thick on top.
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Apr 12, 2013 10:58 AM CST
David (or Doris) -- how thick is too thick? I think that's part of what Hines is trying to determine.
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Name: Doris&David Bishop
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Casshigh
Apr 12, 2013 1:29 PM CST
As David said, we are just starting to put out our pinestraw. When I put it out, I take the time to place the straw under the foliage. Otherwise, the weight of the straw can impede the "already there foliage" from coming through. If the foliage in still low to the ground, the foliage will come on through the straw. As you see, David and I have different theories about putting out straw. I go back and place the straw around the daylilies after David "sifts" it on top of the daylily foliage. That may be why he thinks the foliage comes through!

OK, to answer Mary and hines' questions----I do not put it on real thick but I don't want to see the soil through the pinestraw. I figure if I can see the soil through the pinestraw, then the sun can dry the soil out there. The pinestraw that we put down last spring is virtually gone right now. I would err on the side of safety and have it too thin than too thick. You can always go back and add more later. Pinestraw does keep the soil cool, so that is good as far as crownrot goes. If you were to have a hot, wet summer (hot yes, wet probably not going to happen), I would pull the straw back away from the crown if you have it on thick. If it is thick, you might be creating more hiding places for snails and slugs. Are you a member of the Savannah Daylily (Hemerocallis) Society? If not, you might want to consider going to a meeting. Daylily meetings provide lots of useful information about growing daylilies and much, much more. Someone might come out to your garden and take a look. There are some really nice people who are members. They hosted the Region 5 (GA) Spring Meeting last June. This year's meeting is in Valdosta. The regular registration deadline is April 15. There will be 4 or 5 nice daylily gardens on tour that weekend (May 10-11). Mary (fiwit), David and I will be there. Send me a Tree mail if interested and I can give you all the information and tell you how to get in touch with someone in the Savannah club.

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mattsmom
Apr 13, 2013 4:59 AM CST
I do wish we were able to get pine straw up here. I love the look!

hines
Apr 13, 2013 8:58 AM CST
thank you all so much i get it now from what i gather all is well i was about to have a break down thinking i had paid a fortune to kill my dayllies i just get so busy trying to do the right thing by my plants that a great idea to join the daylily club the timing is not good for me as family illness out of town keeps me from any thing except being here but thats a great idea id love to join all this wonderful knowledge that helps others so much thank you melchor
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Casshigh
Apr 13, 2013 10:02 AM CST
Melchor, I am glad you are feeling better now. Here is the link to the contact information about the Savannah Hemerocallis Society once you have more time. http://www.daylilies.org/AHSreg5.html I am very sorry to hear that you have family illness. That can certainly consume your time and energy. There are probably club members who live in Statesboro that you might be able to contact for answers to specific questions. The president of the club would know who these are. The Savannah Hemerocallis Society has a website. http://www.daylilies.org/AHSreg5.html Best of luck with your gardening endeavors, Melchor. Maybe our paths will cross one day in a daylily garden!

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hines
Apr 14, 2013 8:44 AM CST
oh doris thank you so much for your kind words and information it means alot great idea and ill certainly follow up melchor

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