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Jul 10, 2022 5:32 AM CST
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My imagination might be running wild:

does "FFO" mean "first bloom of the year"

and "FFE" mean "first bloom ever"?

Thanks!
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Jul 10, 2022 5:38 AM CST
Name: Nan
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Yes, "FFO" actually means "first flower open." That puzzled me at first as well.
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Jul 10, 2022 6:34 AM CST
Name: Sue
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FFO is first flower open on a specific cultivar in a specific year, it's not its first flower to open ever. I'm not familiar with FFE but I would assume that might be used for the first flower ever on a seedling. FFO recurs every year, so the date of FFO for a cultivar will vary from year to year.
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Jul 10, 2022 7:14 AM CST
Name: Nan
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I thought FFE was the first flower ever on a plant new to one's garden. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way I've been using it.
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Jul 10, 2022 7:28 AM CST
Name: Sue
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DeweyRooter said: I thought FFE was the first flower ever on a plant new to one's garden. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way I've been using it.


You may well be right, I was guessing. It's not a defined term in the AHS Daylily Dictionary like FFO, CMO and EMO. In your interpretation a new plant would have both a FFO and a FFE in its first year.
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Jul 10, 2022 8:21 AM CST
Name: Dave
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Thinking I follow the practice in Sooby's first post but that's just me since I do hybridize.
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Jul 10, 2022 6:56 PM CST
Name: K
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Thank you for asking Sunny. I had the same question.
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Jul 11, 2022 5:39 AM CST
Name: Vickie
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Yes, FFE means first flower ever of a cultivar to open in a person's garden. I've even seen FFOE, first flower open ever... which means the same thing.
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Jul 11, 2022 6:21 AM CST
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Thank you! I love using abbreviations, and I also love to track data. These two (FFO, FFE) will be getting a lot of use in my notes.
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