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Name: Anne Summerville, SC (Zone 8a) Only dead fish go with the flow!              Xeramtheum Apr 19, 2013 6:48 AM CST |
I'm sorely lacking knowledge about banana trees. All of my Bordelon Bananas are extremely skinny, tall and not looking so good. The Super Dwarf Cavendish looks like it's being strangled by a turtle neck sweater I'm wondering if I cut them down to about 8 inches from the top of the soil, (they are all in containers) if they will grow back as shorter plants this year or could that kill them?   "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. It speaks in the language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood; No matter the skin; No matter the world; No matter the star; We are one. No matter the pain; No matter the darkness; No matter the loss; No matter the fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause. we agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." G'Kar |
Name: Carol Noel Hawaii (near Hilo) (Zone 10b) Leap. The net will appear.          AlohaHoya Apr 19, 2013 12:41 PM CST |
| I am told that you can and the person who told me is a banana grower who has done it. I think your nanners could use a bigger pot, too! It's all about choices. |
Name: Sandi Austin, Tx (Zone 8b) Texas Gardening         |
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Name: Elaine Sarasota, Fl The one constant in life is change        dyzzypyxxy Apr 19, 2013 2:31 PM CST |
| Hm, I thought since bananas are monocots, (one growing tip) if you cut the one stem, you might get pups arising from the roots, but the stem won't grow back. I had a big clump of bananas at our other house, and we used to cut back the big stems after they fruited to stimulate growth of new pups. The cut stems never grew back. I agree those ones of yours need much bigger pots, Xeranthemum. Bananas are heavy feeders and need a ton of water, too. Once the weather settles in to be warm, they'll start growing and looking better. I'd pot them up and not cut them. Elaine "Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill |
Name: Paul Rockwall, TX (Zone 8a) TX living, but CA dreamin'       pniksch Apr 19, 2013 4:47 PM CST |
| It depends on how far back you cut them- too far and you'll kill the parent plant, but that will most likely cause the root system to produce pups. If you only cut back a foot or so, the leaves will continue to grow from the stalk, but it will want to reach its optimal height- so you haven't really solved your problem. Generally, you want to select a variety that suits the area you have available(for heartiness, height, etc). They come in all sizes, from 18" to 15' (or more, depending on your climate). I recomend bananas.org, which is site for all banana growers from newbies to experts, and everything in between, with lots of great questions and knowlegable answers. "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly." Thomas Paine, 1776 |
Name: Anne Summerville, SC (Zone 8a) Only dead fish go with the flow! Xeramtheum Apr 20, 2013 5:41 AM CST |
| Thanks for all the replies .. I know they need bigger pots - they've only been out of the greenhouse for a week and I will re-pot them later on .. I think I might cut back the big Bordelon in a few weeks and hopefully get some pups soon. I wish there was such a thing as a dwarf Bordelon .. I love the leaves! Guess I'll just have to be happy with babies and trade them away when they get too big! "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. It speaks in the language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood; No matter the skin; No matter the world; No matter the star; We are one. No matter the pain; No matter the darkness; No matter the loss; No matter the fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause. we agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." G'Kar |
Name: Evan Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)       |
 M. basjooAfter the winter under mulch and plastic. I imagine the tallest will get to about 10'. Evan |
Name: Anne Summerville, SC (Zone 8a) Only dead fish go with the flow! Xeramtheum Apr 30, 2013 5:38 PM CST |
| Cool! - I already cut one back, removed the pup and repotted .. New leaves are already starting to show up! "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. It speaks in the language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood; No matter the skin; No matter the world; No matter the star; We are one. No matter the pain; No matter the darkness; No matter the loss; No matter the fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause. we agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." G'Kar |
Name: Sandi Austin, Tx (Zone 8b) Texas Gardening |
| Evan, that's amazing! We've had a mild winter, but I've lost the all the bananas. |
Name: Evan Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a) |
| Thanks. What I do is probably overkill for M. basjoo, even here. I learned this from a Logee's video for M. sikkemensis. I've read that M. basjoo takes 18-24 months to bloom so I grow it for the foliage/novelty. Are there banana that will bloom and maybe fruit in z8 in a single season? Evan |
Name: Anne Summerville, SC (Zone 8a) Only dead fish go with the flow! Xeramtheum Apr 30, 2013 9:39 PM CST |
| I've never had one bloom .. I keep hoping my Super Dwarf Cavendish might do it but I'm not holding my breath. Like you I'm growing mostly for the foliage and tropical look. I also have a Golden Lotus, Musella lasiocarpa - It's been nothing but trouble just keeping it alive this past Winter - it looks pathetic at the moment but actually pushed out a pup! .. Still hoping that I'll wake up one morning to find an AE-AE pup magically dropped out of the sky and into my Tropical Corner. "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. It speaks in the language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood; No matter the skin; No matter the world; No matter the star; We are one. No matter the pain; No matter the darkness; No matter the loss; No matter the fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause. we agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." G'Kar |
Name: Elaine Sarasota, Fl The one constant in life is change dyzzypyxxy May 1, 2013 8:54 AM CST |
 Be careful what you wish for X!.. A guy on the other forum has an AeAe that he carefully nurtured up in NC and it grew to over 12ft. before it bloomed, pupped and he cut back the huge main trunk. He had to recruit the local football team to come over and help him move it into the house (he had a 2-story living room) for the first winter, then he said it smelled terrible inside the house and he had to move it again, out to the garage.Going back to your original question, just a thought here but keeping several pups crowded in one pot might be the best way for you to have nice banana foliage on smaller plants. The 'fruit guru' at the Extension office used to tell us that if we wanted to get fruit from our bananas we had to thin out the pups in the clump and only let maybe two new pups grow each year, or we'd have small plants that never made fruit. Since you don't care about getting blooms or fruit, I'd let all the pups develop in a huge pot, and nurture them as a nice foliage plant. Elaine "Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill |
Name: Anne Summerville, SC (Zone 8a) Only dead fish go with the flow! Xeramtheum May 1, 2013 9:56 AM CST |
I didn't have a clue as to what my very first banana tree was - was told it was hardy so I put it in the ground early Spring .. it was an 8 inch pup and grew to over 8 feet in about 2 and a half months then started pupping like crazy .. needless to say, I found a good home for it .. it would have eaten the ginger bed it was in - I loved it but it wasn't practical and waaaay to much maintenance digging up pups for this cranky old geezer to keep up with. I found a good home for it and it's babies. "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. It speaks in the language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood; No matter the skin; No matter the world; No matter the star; We are one. No matter the pain; No matter the darkness; No matter the loss; No matter the fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause. we agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." G'Kar |
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