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Apr 30, 2013 8:58 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
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A friend sent me some small sempervivum plants last year. I wondering if someone could id it? Thanks
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Apr 30, 2013 11:00 AM CST
Name: Clint Brown
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Apr 30, 2013 11:33 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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Wow thanks Clint! Thumbs up
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Apr 30, 2013 10:02 PM CST

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Sorry, Cameron and Clint, it is just not possible to accurately ID sempervivum from photos. They are too similar and too variable. They have been hybridized for more than 100 years as well, so tectorum, calcareum, etc genes are widely distributed throughout. So if someone gives you a no-id plant, it should remain a no-id in fairness to the hobby and its participants.

There are a few exceptions. For example, Sempervivum 'Oddity', S. 'Fame Monstrose' are distinctive enough to be easily ID'd. So is the plant in question S. tectorum? Likely not, but it might be a tectorum hybrid.
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May 1, 2013 12:46 AM CST
Name: Chris
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So many sempervivum have similar traits that once a tag is lost it should always be referred to as a NOID so that mis-labeled plants aren't traded and sold. Unfortunately that's one thing about sempervivum - they're very difficult to ID. Clint, I don't think Twit was getting nitpicky, he's just being honest and trying not to confuse the issue.

Examples of how similar calcareum and tectorum look
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May 1, 2013 7:09 AM CST
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Hi Cameron. That is a very lovely semp.
Both twit and goldfinch are correct. Your semp will be known as a NOID. No ID, for the reasons that both twit and Chris listed.
But not to worry, here is a link for you to add your lovely semp to the database. Many of us have unidentified sempervivum that we have posted to the database under the 'Parent Plant' entry. Would love to have you enter yours here. Sempervivum
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May 1, 2013 9:45 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
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Thank you everyone, I'll definitely enter my Noid into the database. Thumbs up There are so many beautiful sempervivums in the database.
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May 1, 2013 9:49 AM CST
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How long have you had semps Cameron? Do you have any named varieties?
We all have our favorite NOID semps that we treasure, but seems at some point we become obsessed with having named varieties. Sticking tongue out
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May 1, 2013 9:53 AM CST
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Cameron,
Be careful this site and all the pictures will make you want them all!! Whistling Beautiful picture. Lets here it for beautiful NOIDS!!!! Hurray! Hurray! Did not know you had a place to post there picture in the database!!! Green Grin! Hope you join us again.
Sempervivum for Sale
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May 1, 2013 9:54 AM CST
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Hurray! I agree with Julia. Big Grin
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May 1, 2013 9:56 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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I agree
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May 1, 2013 10:38 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
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Thanks everyone for the friendly welcomes. I got my semps last Fall and they pouted all Winter. Now they are putting out new growth and look much happier. These Noids are the only ones I have. I always see some semps at Lowes but I usually look over them. Now I'll keep my eyes open because I realize how hardy and tolerant they are. Thumbs up
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May 1, 2013 11:01 AM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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I also didn't know there was a place for NOID photos! Hooray!!! Welcome to semps Cameron!! Thumbs up
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May 1, 2013 11:02 AM CST
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Wahoo. Hurray! Hurray! Sounds like they will do great for you Cameron. Great way to get started, using just a few plants, to see how they will do in your growing conditions. Thumbs up
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May 1, 2013 11:03 AM CST
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My oversite Greg. *Blush*
Now you have a great place to showcase those wonderful NOIDs you have. Big Grin
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May 1, 2013 11:29 AM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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Thanks Greg for the welcome. Lynn I saw a beautiful dark purple semp last year, it was growing in a strawberry pot.
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May 1, 2013 11:38 AM CST
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Where did you see it Cameron?
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May 1, 2013 12:24 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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It was at Lowes., and it was on clearance for nearly a year.
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May 1, 2013 12:44 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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That's a lot of self control Cameron!
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May 1, 2013 12:55 PM CST
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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I know, and I regret it lol. Hopefully they will have more this year. Thumbs up

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