Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Sempervivum 'Silberkarneol'

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 7, 2013 9:02 AM CST

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We have another semp in the database that needs all you researches.
Seems we have some different spellings for what appears to be the same plant.
It looks to me that at some point a tag was mis-read, changing the rn to an m? Thus the karneol changing to kameol?

Silberkarneol

Silberkarneol http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=...
Also sold from Edelweiss as Silberkarneol.

Silber Kameol http://www.smgsucculents.com/sempervivum%20silber%20kameol

Sempervivophilia http://stalikez.info/fsm/semp/site/mmidx/mms_xx.php?lg=gb&cl...

http://www.semper-vivum.de http://www.semper-vivum.de/sempervivum-silberkarneol.html
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Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Jun 8, 2013 1:12 AM CST
Hi Lynn, according to Horst's site, this semp was hybridized in Germany, and in german karneol means carnelian which is a gem stone but could indicate a color too - which in the second photo (peter dieckmann's) it does look carnelian red! Just my opinion, that this spelling would be correct. If the semp wasn't from Germany I'd say Horst is possibly wrong.
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Name: Bev
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webesemps
Jun 8, 2013 1:18 AM CST
yay for Researcher Greg! Hurray!
Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Jun 8, 2013 1:20 AM CST
haha my secret...put in the 2 different names into google translate, with "detect language as the option (rather than a selected language) then see what comes up! Carnelian!
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Name: Bev
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webesemps
Jun 8, 2013 1:22 AM CST
Smart researcher Greg Hurray!
Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Jun 8, 2013 1:23 AM CST
you're too kind missy! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 8, 2013 8:18 AM CST

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Thank you Greg.
See if this looks right. I changed the name in the database and put all the different names it is being sold as. Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Silberkarneol')
Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Jun 8, 2013 9:31 AM CST
Looks good Lynn! Thumbs up
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picklepuff
Jun 8, 2013 10:45 AM CST
Is someone going to contact Don at SMG? I think he should know. I have the 'Silber Karneol' from Edelweiss. I could always send Don a few of my hens for comparison.
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gg5
Jun 8, 2013 12:57 PM CST
Pickles that's a good idea, im sure it's the same plant I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Cliff Hughes
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Cahac
Jun 8, 2013 1:41 PM CST
Lymm
this is a English site, has some super pics i found this site last year. he spells this name as 1 word not 2. got some super pics and for a good laugh check out the about me link
cliff
http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/sempervivum/sempervivum...
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 8, 2013 8:11 PM CST

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Do you have a photo of yours Sandi?
Mine from SMG looks just like photos under the other names. Even the link that Cliff gave us.

And wow, that is one great site Cliff, thank you. I've bookmarked it. Thumbs up

I'll send a link to Don.
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