Plant Database forum: 'Flashy Trout's Back' and 'Forellenschluss'

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Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jun 7, 2013 3:54 PM CST
'Flashy Trout's Back' and 'Forellenschluss' both exist in the Plant database as if separate cultivars, but I think they are the same variety. According to one source, it has also been called ‘Spotted Trout’ and ‘Freckles’.

(Romaine with apple green leaves mottled with reddish specks. )

I was able to add the alternate name 'Forellenschluss' to 'Flashy Trout's Back'. Or maybe that was 'also sold as".

I tried to add 'Forellenschluss' as a second cultivar name, and as an "also sold as" to 'Flashy Trout's Back' lettuce. That was rejected because 'Forellenschluss' already exists.

Maybe these "two" cultivars could be merged into one entry with two cultivar names and some
also sold as" names?

"Correct" Cultivar: 'Forellenschluss'
Alternate cultivar: ‘Spotted Trout’

Also sold as:
‘Freckles’.
Flashy Trout's Back




http://www.ourhappyacres.com/2013/03/saturday-spotlight-fore...
http://www.dianeseeds.com/lettuce-forellenschluss.html
http://www.territorialseed.com/product/917
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
Jun 7, 2013 4:32 PM CST

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Cos Lettuce (Lactuca sativa 'Forellenschluss') - OK?
Evan
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jun 7, 2013 4:37 PM CST
I agree that's the "best" name for it.

Can the other names be kept somewhere ... somewhere that a search would find them?

It's Humpty-Dumpty's paradox: should we list things by their "right" names, or by everything that people CALL them?

Name: Evan
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eclayne
Jun 7, 2013 5:58 PM CST

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Enough time should have passed for the system to have re-sampled that entry Rick. A search for any of the names listed should work now.
Evan
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jun 7, 2013 6:53 PM CST
Great, I am finding the same entry ( 'Forellenschluss') with many names, but I see there is still a 'Freckles' entry, that would ideally be merged into this entry.

P.S. Chelle has 'Freckles' and there are two photos there.

Name: Evan
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eclayne
Jun 7, 2013 7:46 PM CST

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Thanks for the heads up Rick. It should be all set now.
Evan
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jun 7, 2013 7:53 PM CST

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I just declined one of your edit proposals, Rick, because it would have negated Evan's changes. It's important to wait until earlier changes have been approved before you submit new ones.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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RickCorey
Jun 10, 2013 5:42 PM CST
Ah, thanks. I think I'm impatient.

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zuzu
Jun 10, 2013 7:18 PM CST

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Every time I read "Flashy Trout's Back," I picture a scene from a musical, something like "Guys and Dolls," with a group of people singing a welcome-back song to a fish-faced ex-con wearing a zoot suit.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 10, 2013 8:25 PM CST
Or the 'Sound of Music'.
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jun 10, 2013 8:55 PM CST
>> Every time I read "Flashy Trout's Back," I picture a scene from a musical, something like "Guys and Dolls," with a group of people singing a welcome-back song to a fish-faced ex-con wearing a zoot suit.

Yuh, dat's m'buddy 'Trout'. Jus' got outa da joint. Flashy dressa!
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jun 10, 2013 9:41 PM CST

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Yep, those are the lyrics I'm hearing in my head, Rick. Big Grin

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