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Jun 19, 2013 11:57 AM CST
I'm new and I have a daylily that I bought a few years ago in NC from a place that is now out of business.
The name on the tag said Fiesta Bravo but I can't seem to find that name registered anywhere. Do you think this plant is just unregistered? Or do you think this is a different plant altogether? I've checked all the other Fiesta daylilies that I can find and none match this plant. It is pretty small (under 20 inches) and the colors don't seem to match. Any help would be appreciated!
Jun 19, 2013 12:33 PM CST
|Looks kinda like pardon me.|
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Jun 19, 2013 12:55 PM CST
|You're right! It does look like Pardon Me! I can't remember the flower size (the picture was from last year and it hasn't bloomed yet this year) but I think the flower size is right also. Thanks for the help!|
Jun 19, 2013 12:58 PM CST
The place you bought it from, was it a daylily grower or just a plant nursery? Sometimes people just give plants garden names and sell them. Anyone can have plant tags made up, if this was one of those tags you get in plants like at lowes or wherever. I can't find a plant in the AHS database named that so it is definitely not a registered daylily if that is really the name it has. Even wholesale nursery suppliers sell daylilies with names that aren't registered so that place may have bought some like that. I bought one back when I first got into daylilies from Walmart called "MISS JUNE" and it is not registered, but if you look on the wholesalers website it is listed and sold with that name and it comes wih a tag that has that name.
Jun 19, 2013 1:00 PM CST
|This is what PARDON ME looks like here|
Jun 19, 2013 2:01 PM CST
|Thanks! I bought the daylily from a daylily farm (Holly Hills) and I know they did some of their own breeding. The owner also bought daylilies from all over so it could be anything. It looks an awful lot like Pardon Me but I won't know for sure until it blooms for me this year. I just can't remember the bloom size and I can't tell from the picture I took. I'll post another picture when it blooms this year along with the measurements. I don't really care what it is because I absolutely love it! I was sad to see Holly Hills close because I'd always buy my daylilies there when I lived in NC. Even after I moved back to NY I would drive there and buy daylilies when I would visit friends. I haven't found any place in NY to rival it.|
Jun 20, 2013 6:37 PM CST
I miss Holly Hills, Moncure, NC. too. Holly Hills is the garden where the addiction started in 2004. I have several that I purchased and have no clue what they are. The invoices are no where to be found. Made a point to visit Holly Hills every year and always enjoyed the ride from Charlotte to visit Jim Massey's garden and came back with a lot of daylilies to plant. Visited the last open summer in 2011 and bought several that he had hybridized.
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Jun 25, 2013 8:13 AM CST
|I can't find my old invoices either. Every now and then I come across them but I can never seem to find them when I need them. I went to the first weekend the were open in 2011 and ended up buying almost 50 daylilies and driving them back to NYC. I was actually surprised the police didn't pull me over since it looked like I had turned my car into a greenhouse!|
Jun 25, 2013 10:19 AM CST
|It looks a little bit like an old one called 'Little Business'. This has grown here for at least 20 years! |
Little Business (Maxwell-T., 1971)
height 15in (38cm), bloom 3in (7.6cm), season EM, Rebloom, Semi-Evergreen, Diploid, Red self with green throat. (sdlg × Little Wart)
Of course, with 74, 455 daylilies registered as of now, this is only a guess!!
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Jun 26, 2013 12:02 PM CST
|Thanks Julie! I actually have Little Business so I know it's not that one. The flowers of "Fiesta Bravo" are a bit bigger and I believe the scapes are taller. Neither has bloomed for me yet but they both have buds. As soon as they bloom I will post pictures. I'm trying to be better about taking pictures of all my daylilies. I usually start off well but when so many start blooming at the same time I just tend to only take pictures of the really striking ones. I suspect it just was never registered and I'll just have to accept the fact that it isn't legitimate but I'll love it just the same!|
Jun 26, 2013 2:01 PM CST
|Pardon Me is one that I never acquired but it sure is a nice looking plant.|
Jun 27, 2013 2:38 PM CST
|My mystery plant has finally bloomed! Here are pictures of the entire plant and just the bloom.|
The plant is about 20" and the blooms are around 4".
Little Business also bloomed. It is a lot smaller, the flowers are smaller and they are a deeper shade of red. Here are some pictures of it.
The flowers for "Fiesta Bravo" are a deep rose instead of a clear red.
Jun 27, 2013 2:45 PM CST
|Could it be Rosy Returns??|
Jun 28, 2013 8:13 AM CST
|Thank you!! I think my mystery plant is Rosy Returns! Appreciate the help!|
Jun 28, 2013 9:19 AM CST
|You are welcome |
Jun 3, 2015 12:12 PM CST
|I live in North Carolina and have this daylily. I've never found any record of it, but it was sold to me from the breeder as "Holly Hills Hello".|
Jun 3, 2015 12:29 PM CST
|Holly Hill Hello IS a registered daylily! Here is the registration data: |
Holly Hill Hello (Massey-J., 1992)
height 32in (81cm), bloom 5.5in (14.0cm), season M, Semi-Evergreen, Diploid, Brick red with rose raspberry halo above gold to green throat.
Your image seems to match the registration data, so I believe you have the correct cultivar. Please use the singular HILL when checking the AHS database or this DB and you will see a number of cultivars using that same prefix that this hybridizer registered back in the 1990's . AHS has NONE of the images to match his registrations, so I urge you, especially since you used to live in the NC area (and I believe, from your comments, you obtained these cultivars directly from the hybridizer ) to please contact Debbie Monbeck at this email : firstname.lastname@example.org
and send her any good images of these registrations that you have so that they can be added to the AHS database. In order for the images not to appear pixelated in the database, they should be at least 200 KB in size ( but not over 1 MG) . It would be much appreciated if any of you who have images of cultivars from obscure hybridizers send those to the historic daylilies committee. We MUST review any images submitted to make certain they are the correct cultivar before they are added, under ISHS rules but AHS appreciates any assistance in adding missing images.
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Jun 3, 2015 6:05 PM CST
|Thank you Floota, all these years I've been searching for Holly Hills ... I will look through my photos and see if I have any more.|
Jun 3, 2015 6:53 PM CST
|I'm not sure if this helps but I know that when Holly Hill Daylily Farm closed the owner donated leftover plants to various organizations in NC. One of them was the NC Botanical Gardens in Chapel Hill. I'm not sure how many he gave them but I saw at least 1 of his introductions there. They may have a list of all the daylilies he donated. I'm sure someone there would be willing to take pictures if they don't have any already.|
I have 4 of his introductions but I'm hesitant to send my photos since the plants are in NY. The colors aren't the same up here (more washed out) so they aren't really representative. Most of the pictures I took at the farm are pretty awful since I was just using them to remember which ones I wanted to buy.
Jun 3, 2015 7:39 PM CST
|I e-mailed Debbie and sent her the pic as an attachment.|