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Jun 14, 2024 8:39 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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I read it as one opinion among many, as valid as any other. Opinions that everyone agree with don't need protecting. It's the one voice of dissent that does.
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Jun 14, 2024 10:38 AM CST
California Central Valley (Zone 8b)
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TomatoNut95 said: I hope that crummy tomato tastes so bad no one will ever grow it again. Crossing Fingers!


That's not dissent, that's a curse. All that's missing is the doll full of pins.
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Jun 14, 2024 1:03 PM CST
Sacramento, Ca
I think it is just wishful thinking rather than a curse. And it was directed at the tomato not at any person.

While it may be on the mean side for those who have such plants, it is just a gut reaction to a controversial subject matter.
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Jun 15, 2024 11:27 AM CST
Name: Thea
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I agree There is a difference in saying something about a tomato and saying something about a person.

Everyone has their own opinions, thoughts, views, whatever & everyone expresses them in their own way. Who are you to call someone else's comments childish? I think it was you being the childish one acting like a bully. Then another childish one had to jump on the bandwagon.

The unchildish thing to do is what you told her to do which was to ignore & scroll on by. But instead, you had to try to make her feel small and shut her up because her opinion doesn't match your own.

This kind of stuff is why I stopped watching the tomato thread.

I'm sorry I didn't say something sooner.
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Jun 15, 2024 6:02 PM CST
Name: Anne
Texas (Zone 8b)
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Ban the GMO tomato!
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Jun 15, 2024 6:08 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
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Continuing to stir the pot is not helpful.
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Jun 15, 2024 7:08 PM CST
Sacramento, Ca
TomatoNut95 said: I agree. I can't get over the number of bullies on this thread, especially at me simply because I'm against the spread of a homegrown GMO crop. Personally I'd like to see this thread deleted. @dave
I unwatched this thread awhile back but merely visited to add another unaggressive opinion that everyone growing the tomato thinks is some curse. 💔


Unfortunately, you are not helping your argument. Your last comment wasn't an "unaggressive opinion". It was snarky. But snark is OK in small quantities and doesn't need to be called out - just ignored.

By asking that this whole thread be deleted is beyond snark. There is an important discussion being had. Your anti-GMO opinion is important, but so are the neutral-GMO, the undecided-GMO, and the pro-GMO opinions.

Provide information, preferably with reputable sources for any claims made, so that others can make informed decisions - don't squash the discussion.

I humbly request that this thread be allowed to continue with everyone making an effort to remain polite in their disagreements.
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Jun 15, 2024 7:30 PM CST
Name: Zoë
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Weedwhacker said: Continuing to stir the pot is not helpful.


And continuing to misstate the facts is not helpful either.

In the four months since this thread began, this debate and conversation has embraced a full range of views with courtesy and respect from all parties, regardless of whether they agreed with each other. The contributions have been intelligent, thoughtful and well stated; in other words, a civil adult conversation.

With one exception: the person who has repeatedly posted childish—yes childish—comments and pictures that contributed nothing new or thoughtful to the discussion but served only to offend and annoy.

Allegations that anyone has been attacked because of their opinions are entirely unfounded—not one single person in this thread has been attacked or "bullied" for their views on this challenging, complex topic. In fact, without actually counting, I estimate that the majority of opinions lean more toward anti-GMO, but look how many people are interested in learning more about it! That has been the joy of this thread.

We have been politely ignoring those posts using inflammatory words like crummy, disgusting, pointless, ridiculous, garbage, Frankentomato and calling vegetarians weirdos, until one person finally lost patience. I don't personally agree with the manner of that post, but I do agree with the sentiment. No one was attacking the opinion; rather the way it was presented (and had been, repeatedly).

Why shouldn't people who are trying to carry on an intelligent conversation have the right to object to one person's inappropriate behavior?
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Jun 15, 2024 9:49 PM CST
Name: Thea
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Not everyone communicates in the same way. Sometimes the way one communicates is the only way one knows how to communicate.

My aunt was 50 but still had the mind of a young child. I would hope that people would treat her kindly even when she voiced her opinions childishly because that was the only way she knew how to communicate.

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Jun 20, 2024 3:10 PM CST
California Central Valley (Zone 8b)
Region: California
To those of you growing the Purple Tomato:

This plant is crazy! The flower stems are popping out everywhere but at a leaf node. The main stem has split so many times, I'm not sure which one is which anymore. And the suckers! They are giants. Very un-tomato like - maybe those snapdragons added more than just color. Hopefully it will set some fruit soon.
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Jun 20, 2024 5:38 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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I agree, Lucy - it is a very vigorous plant!
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Jun 20, 2024 7:48 PM CST
Name: Thea
Illinois (IL) (Zone 5b)
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Do y'all have any photos to share? I'd love to see them.
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Jun 20, 2024 9:25 PM CST
California Central Valley (Zone 8b)
Region: California
I'll take some tomorrow in better light.
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Jun 21, 2024 8:01 PM CST
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Name: Ken Isaac
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Lucy68 said: To those of you growing the Purple Tomato...
This plant is crazy!




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No purple color yet!
This is the largest- the size of a small marble.

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Very sprawling and loaded with blooms. Probably 20 fruits developing...
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Another blossom cluster forming here.
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Jun 21, 2024 10:03 PM CST
California Central Valley (Zone 8b)
Region: California
Here's a couple pics of mine. This one shows flowers growing mid stem with tiny tomatoes.
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This is the entire sprawly plant

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These photos are strange - I must have been too hot.
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Jun 22, 2024 12:25 AM CST
Sacramento, Ca
It looks like it's completely ignoring the cage and doing what it wants. Hilarious!
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Jun 22, 2024 12:36 AM CST
California Central Valley (Zone 8b)
Region: California
I'm not sure why I bothered with the cage. Its going to be all over the ground in another week.
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Jun 22, 2024 8:18 AM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
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Wow, that plant gives a new meaning to "vigorous!"
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Jun 22, 2024 10:07 AM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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Audrey! Hilarious!
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Jun 22, 2024 11:37 AM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
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Maybe the Audrey III ?
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