Roses forum: need help with roses

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carenjean
Jul 12, 2013 6:49 AM CST
I am new here so please forgive me if this is not the right place to post this. Still learning about flower gardening.
I was at the local box store yesterday and they had 2 lonely sick looking rose bushes in the blow out sale, so bought them and brought them home.
They are very long with a lot of new growth from this year in the pot I take it.
My questions are this how do I plant them? Do I need to cut them back before I plant them?
What else do I need to do with them to be successful with these babies?
Thanks for all of your help I really appreciate it a lot and sure the roses will too.
Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Jul 12, 2013 10:04 AM CST
CarenJean - Well, I'd love to help and you're definitely in the right place! But, I need a little bit more info so I can help if I can. What is your zone / state? Planting roses in a cold environment is much much much more different than planting a rose in a warm environment like Texas / Florida / California. Do you, by any chance, know the name of the rose? Can you take a picture of them? You'd be surprised as to just how hardy roses truly can be!

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carenjean
Jul 12, 2013 10:37 PM CST
I live in zone 5 southern iowa
no way to take pictures camera is broken darn it anyway
They are called playboy rose
Thanks for your help its much appreciated
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 13, 2013 1:13 AM CST

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Hi, Carenjean. You've come to the right place to post your question. I'll take a stab at answering it and others will chime in if I've left something out or given you some bad advice.

Playboy is one of my favorite roses. It's a vigorous rose with a cheerful appearance and it's one of the few roses in my garden that never gets black spot. We have lots of photos of it in our database.

Rose (Rosa 'Playboy')

You don't say how large the containers are. If it's a 5-gallon container and if you were in a warmer zone, I'd advise you to keep the roses in the containers until the weather cools down. July is a bad time to plant anything, but you're in a cold zone, so you'll want your roses to develop a good root system underground before the cold weather sets in. I'd therefore advise you to plant the roses in the ground now. Wait until a cool day or the evening of a hot day and dig a large hole for each rose in a sunny area of your garden. Ideally, the hole should be at least twice as big as the root system. Amend your soil if necessary. This means you should mix the soil you removed from the hole with some compost, some potting soil, and a small handful of bone meal.

Remove the rose from the container and check the roots. If the rose has been growing in the container too long, the roots will be circling the pot and can get bound together in a ball. If this has happened, tease the roots apart to free them from the ball shape. Plant the rose slightly deeper in the hole than it was growing in the pot. When you replace the soil, be sure to pack it down firmly so that there aren't any air pockets. Water the newly planted roses thoroughly. Be sure to keep the new plants watered well for the next few weeks. Keeping the roots from drying out should be your main concern after planting. It would also be a good idea to use some sort of shade structure (maybe just a large piece of cardboard held in place by garden stakes) to shade the roses in the heat of the day for the first couple of weeks after planting.

I wouldn't cut the roses back before planting unless the tops of the canes look crispy. In that case, you could cut just an inch or two off the tops of the canes. You say the bushes are "sick looking," but please resist the urge to apply any fertilizer to them at this time. They're probably experiencing stress from living in a container in a big box store, where they might not get watered often enough or might get watered too often and not have good drainage. Roses under stress should not be fertilized. You can worry about fertilizer later.

Something else you can worry about later is winter protection. You're in zone 5 and the rose is winter-hardy to zone 6, so you'll need to take some precautions to keep it alive over the winter. I'm in zone 9, so I'll let someone in a cooler zone give you wintering advice.
Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Jul 14, 2013 10:17 AM CST
Pretty much everything Zuzu says applies but I want to add a few things because of the zone similarities between you & I. Look for the "bud union." It should be a big knot on the main stem from the roots. Make sure that the bud union is at LEAST 2-4 inches below the main ground level. That means you'll have to dig the hole pretty deep. Once you bury the rose up to its eyeballs, backfill the hole with all the excess dirt and then cover the snot out of it with mulch. You really can't over mulch a rose for cold zones. I've actually buried roses 100% in mulch. The mulch will protect the roots from frying in the sun and protect the canes from drying winds in the winter. After you mulch it, water it pretty heavily. I make a moat around the mound & fill it full of water then watch how fast the water drains. If it sits there, you'll have to work on making the soil more porous. If it drains away pretty quick you're ok. The mulch will also help retain moisture around the roots without making it soggy wet as roses don't like wet feet. Don't be too surprised if all the leaves fall off. As long as the canes are still green, you got a chance. I would give a splash of SuperThrive or fish emulsion when transplanting, especially because, as Zuzu said July is a tough month to be planting, but you want those roots to start growing in ground before winter hits. But dig a deep deep hole!! That's the main thing there!!

My article on how to grow roses (poorly written) may help.
http://garden.org/ideas/view/skiekitty/1178/Growing-Roses-in...
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CindiKS
Jul 14, 2013 6:08 PM CST
Carenjean,
In case you're still looking, the eyeballs on a rose are about 2 or 3 inches above the knot that is the bud union.
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Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
Jul 14, 2013 6:59 PM CST
Cindi - Sticking tongue out Sticking tongue out Sticking tongue out I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you. nodding nodding nodding
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