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Nov 3, 2024 7:47 PM CST
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Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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"OCD-Me"!!!! nodding

Okay, the carrots are up to around 2" tall now. The hybrids (Adana and Merida) "appear" to be outperforming the open-pollinated Rodelika which would make sense that they are.

Anybody want to share their thinning method? Currently I'm thinking of doing a thumb-width thinning...whatever fits between my thumb and side of my finger gets pulled...then move over one seedling, pull a thumb-width, move over one seedling, rinse and repeat...aiming to leave the bigger plants. Then in about 3-4 weeks come back and thin them out to 3 inches apart.

I've got plenty of skips, especially in the Rodelika....has anybody had much luck transplanting these small plants? Seems like it would be really "iffy" and probably kinda aggravating to do, but...it could help fill some gaps in. Thumbs up I might just take a large knife and make some deep but narrow slits/trenches and drop some of the thinnings in them and press the slit/trench back together. The rest of the thinnings I'll bury to reduce carrot flies from being attracted. I've also heard its a good idea to water down the thinned carrots good after thinning for the same reason...helps wash away the carrot smell (and I imagine it helps settle in any roots that get disturbed by the thinning, too).

Here's what I'm looking at:
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As for the three different varieties, so far the Adana are filling the row in the best. I've got a few more skips in the Merida row and definitely more skips in the Rodelika row. But, "proof's in the pudding"...I'll wait to pass judgement until I taste them. Thumbs up
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Nov 4, 2024 11:25 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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I am bad at thinning.
Might as well try replanting extras tho.
Plant it and they will come.
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Nov 4, 2024 6:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Thanks for the feedback, Sally. It took me 2-1/2 hours to thin the 100' row (50' double row) of carrots. Blinking I'll post more later. Thumbs up
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Nov 5, 2024 10:11 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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I've done it (back when I was much younger, I guess) but transplanting carrot thinnings is pretty iffy - you need to make sure the roots are straight when you plant them, otherwise the carrots become quite a mess.
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 5, 2024 10:39 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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I started around 11:00am thinning the more-or-less 100' row of carrots yesterday. Using kerosene lanterns I managed to finish around 4am this morning...

Nah, just kiddin'!!! Whistling nodding But, it did take me 2-1/2 hours to thin them. Can you imagine "OCD-Me" sitting on the ground...kneeling on the ground...laying prone on the ground...trying to decide "Do I pull that one or this one? Which one should I pull? Which one should I let live?"? It was a harrowing experience I tell ya!!!! nodding

First I started out with a pair of scissors...old "garden" scissors that didn't "quiet" close at the tip. That worked about as good as a politician. Thumbs down So, I ran inside and "borrowed" a pair of my wife's scissors. Rolling my eyes. They made a world of difference...but, terrible for "OCD-Me" due to having to oh so carefully move the blades in among the seedlings and snip the right ones... So, it boiled down to Neanderthal "pluckin'". Pulling worked much, much better...for me. YMMV. I tip my hat to you. One thing I found out is that if you have a nice looking seedling and you want to pull adjacent seedlings up use the right hand if the doomed seedlings are on the right side and the left hand if they're on the left side...much more control on exactly pulling what you want to pull. Don't worry about asking me how I know this...I think you've got it figured out. D'Oh!

The Adana F1s was the best stand so I'll be showing it a lot, the Rodelikas were more spotty. Anyhow, let the show begin!!!!!! Hurray!

Here's what we started with (I'm pretty sure these are Adana)...
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The far right side of the front row shows how thick they were before thinning. After thinning...
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Row of Adana F1. The right side has been thinned, the left side hasn't been thinned yet...
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After I got through thinning them I gave them a good soaking with the shower nozzle to help settle the soil back around the remaining seedlings and then I turned the drip on for a while for some deeper soaking...
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I did re-plant some of the plants that I pulled up. I found out that if you want to do this you need to have a small bottle of water handy to immediately water the re-planted carrots with. I figured I'd just water them after I got through thinning...by then the ones I had planted early on were severely wilted, though the latter ones looked okay. A little while after watering, most of the wilted ones seemed to be responding to the water....we'll just have to wait and see on them. Most of the re-plants were Rodelikas being as there were more skips in those so I had more empty spots to plant in. I really didn't replant *that* many, though...it was more of an experiment I guess...probably replanted 20-30 of them. One thing I did note was that it seemed that though the Rodelikas (OP) had the worst germination, took longer to germinate, and the rows looked more sparse...the actual roots on lots of them were the largest I encountered out of the three varieties.

I'm also going to reassess the density to plant carrot seeds at. It seemed the least dense recommendation was three seeds per inch. I sorta/kinda tried to stick with that as I planted. I'm going to stretch that out a tad the next time I plant carrots. Maybe it's just "OCD-Me" but the amount of seedlings that I pulled just seemed like such a waste. Naturally, hand-planting seeds this small at a specific rate is rather "subjective", too say the least, but I'll go by memory of this planting and try to spread the seeds out a tad more the next time.

Using seed-tape could be a very good idea *if* you can find the variety that you want in seed-tape form. I specifically sought carrots said to mature to between six and eight inches...and wanted to try my hand at hand planting, anyhow. I'll probably continue with loose seed...and plant the seeds a little more thinly in the row. I inquired of one seed seller about the length and spacing of the seeds. Here is their response:

Your question: How long are the seed tape for these carrots and what is the seed spacing? Thanks!

Answer: 5 meters (16 feet, 5 inches). The seeds are perfectly spaced to eliminate the need for thinning. We hope this answers your question.


"...perfectly spaced to eliminate the need for thinning." Shrug! 1-1/2"? 2"? 3"? 4"? 12"?(hey, that would definitely eliminate thinning! nodding ). There's several spacing suggestions from different places...I'd really like to know what the *perfect* one is. I replied with the question of what that perfect spacing is...and never received a response. This is from a popular seed vendor, which I've used in the past. No biggie, but... Sighing!

Anyhow, I bagged up all the thinnings and tossed them. George inspected them for me before I tossed them and he seemed to walk away in disgust...he thought it was some type of treat in the bucket.
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Amazing how many of those little seedlings I pulled...when I finally stood up after sitting/kneeling for those 2-1/2 hours I was stumbling like a drunk man...so the logical things was to go get a beer. nodding Rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 5, 2024 10:44 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Weedwhacker said: I've done it (back when I was much younger, I guess) but transplanting carrot thinnings is pretty iffy - you need to make sure the roots are straight when you plant them, otherwise the carrots become quite a mess.

Sandy, the seedlings that I replanted I used a blade on those "cast aside" scissors to make a narrow slit for the carrot seedlings to drop into...then squeezed the soil in on them and pressed the ground down between them. We'll see...nothing was growing in those spots, anyhow, so...nothing ventured nothing gained....YMMV....check's in the mail...more feed for the deer....etc., etc.,... Whistling Hilarious!
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Nov 5, 2024 11:57 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Your carrots are looking great, Ed - I think you are going to have a bumper crop! Thumbs up
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Nov 5, 2024 12:08 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
Garden Procrastinator Region: United States of America Region: Alabama Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tomato Heads Vegetable Grower
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Maybe I will, Sandy! Thumbs up Of course, I haven't been out to the garden today, yet. Bambi and her sidekick may have come back for a midnight snack!!! Thinking
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Nov 5, 2024 1:13 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
They really do like carrots (and beets); one year, quite some time ago, when we still had dogs and only had a 3' high "rabbit fence' around the garden because the deer were spooked away by the dogs, the deer did get in during the night in the late fall, where I still had some carrots and beets needing to be harvested - the garden looked like it had been plowed by the time they were done with it!

You could consider putting some "floating row cover" over the carrots.
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Nov 5, 2024 1:48 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
Garden Procrastinator Region: United States of America Region: Alabama Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tomato Heads Vegetable Grower
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I just did the "back of the arm to the electric fence" test. I can firmly say...do not buy a Parmak 12v fence charger. The one I bought back in 2017 would have made me jump...HIGH. I've tested it directly across the terminals and barely get 7kv...sometimes. The specifications that they advertise is that it puts out 13.5kv...it comes nowhere close to doing that...and I had one shipped in to replace this one and *it* wasn't as good as this new one. This new design useless unless you're just wanting to keep a hamster inside a fence or something...it might work on a guinea pig, but I doubt it. Thumbs down Grumbling
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