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(Zone 9b)   UndertheSun Aug 14, 2013 10:40 PM CST |
| I have no idea what wrong, but obviously something did. So as I was cleaning up spent bloom stalks and removing the dead growth on my TB irises today, I noticed that quite a few irises had died. I don't know what happened, but even some of the irises that bloomed this year, the rhizome was shriveled up.  They were/are planted with the top of the rhizome at the soil surface. They were soaked in 10% bleach and rinsed and let dry before planted. I mixed a small amount of bone meal into the soil before planting. Everything was looking fine, so what happened?  It was a sad day for this garden lover, that's for sure.  Any advice will be greatly appreciated.  |
Name: Tom Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)            tveguy3 Aug 15, 2013 3:41 AM CST |
| Rob, It is normal for a rhizome to die back after it has bloomed. It only blooms once, then dies back. Usually it sends out some increases first, and they will be blooming in future years. Are there other new rhizomes that are growing? My experience is that they shrivel up the next year, not the same year that they bloomed. Are these newly planted? This year? Last Year? Are they soft and mushy and smelly? Is the whole clump dead? I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great |
Name: Mary Ann Kentucky          Muddymitts Aug 15, 2013 7:12 AM CST |
| It has been a wierd year for Irises. I had several varieties that I transplanted last year that sent up a bloom stalk and bloomed, but produced no leaves and no side rhizomes. They just died. One of these are Irises that I've had for almost thirty years. I haven't dug all of them up yet, just in case there are babies there that I can't see -- but it doesn't look good, so go figure. But Tom is right -- the rhizome that blooms this year is referred to as the *mother* -- and it will never bloom again. It's job is to produce *daughters*, small rhizomes along the sides of the mother and they are the ones that will grow and produce flowers next year, or the year after. Thoughts become things -- choose the good ones. (www.tut.com) |
(Zone 9b) UndertheSun Aug 15, 2013 11:12 AM CST |
| The ones that died produced no babies, the leaves were all dead and the rhizomes were just a dried up shriveled dead thing. I divided and replanted these last year. |
Name: Mary Ann Kentucky Muddymitts Aug 15, 2013 7:45 PM CST |
| I hate it when that happens................... Thoughts become things -- choose the good ones. (www.tut.com) |
Name: Sharon McGregor IA (Zone 4b)  caitlinsgarden Aug 16, 2013 3:25 PM CST |
| Are the roots also dead? I had a situation like this last year (or was it the year before?), and decided maybe it was the mysterious disease aka "scorch". I had plants that bloomed wonderfully, but after the bloom period the leaves browned up from the middle of the fan out and the roots died, and it was bye bye. I tried to save some and planted in a different spot, but this spring they were dead. |
(Zone 9b) UndertheSun Aug 17, 2013 7:01 PM CST |
| Everything was dead. I hope it wasn't/isn't a disease. Sorry to hear this has happened to you too Mary Anne and Caitlin. |
Name: Sharon McGregor IA (Zone 4b) caitlinsgarden Aug 21, 2013 6:44 AM CST |
| I found the thread where I talked about my similar problem last year, but I don't know how to direct you to that thread. Do you know? |
Name: Arlyn Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)   crowrita1 Aug 21, 2013 6:50 AM CST |
| http://garden.org/forums/view/... see if this works....Arlyn |
Name: Arlyn Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a) crowrita1 Aug 21, 2013 6:56 AM CST |
| Read "brown leaf in the center of the fan"..,or, search "scorch"..Arlyn |
Name: Sharon McGregor IA (Zone 4b) caitlinsgarden Aug 21, 2013 8:13 AM CST |
| Thank you! I should say that after I discarded the inflicted plants last year, I haven't seen it in this years plants. Best guess now is that scorch is a germ transmitted by a certain kind of leafhoppers. Maybe the drought has something to do with the populations of various pests. I also lost several baptisias last year to something that ate all the leaves. Because they were in a spot I couldn't water, they never recovered. |
(Zone 9b) UndertheSun Aug 21, 2013 5:02 PM CST |
Thank you for your help!  So if one has scorch, the center (newest) leaf will be brown? The whole leaf, or just the tip?  I'll try and take a picture tomorrow, because to me, it looks a lot like the 3rd picture Brad had posted in the other thread. |
Name: Sharon McGregor IA (Zone 4b) caitlinsgarden Aug 22, 2013 9:11 AM CST |
| If you see a new baby leaf in the center of the fan that is brown, maybe not even open to the air yet, I think that is scorch. Lots of leaves get brown at the tips eventually, but they don't start out brown. |
(Zone 9b) UndertheSun Aug 23, 2013 4:58 PM CST |
| There is no brown on the center leaves, so that is a relief it's not scorch. Thank you again caitlin.  |
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