Plant Database forum: Calamintha

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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Aug 23, 2013 4:01 PM CST
"It appears that this genus is not valid. If you are certain that it is a valid genus, please post a message to the Plants Admins requesting that it be added. In the message, please let them know all the fields you entered."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamintha

wikipedia says it's a valid genus.

Trying to add:

common name: Georgia savory

genus: calamintha

species: calamintha georgiana



Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 23, 2013 4:08 PM CST

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I would agree that this is a currently not accepted genus name, at least per the major taxonomic databases. In no particular order.

http://www.tropicos.org/Name/40034328?tab=acceptednames
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/genusfamfind.pl
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/search/scientific/items/9...
http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/qsearch.do;jsessionid=AA5942B59AEBF...
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Calamintha

Calamintha georgiana is a synonym of Clinopodium carolinianum per Kew WCSP/ITIS
I've updated our entry. Georgia Savory (Clinopodium carolinianum)
Evan
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Aug 23, 2013 4:16 PM CST
Ok...
Just didn't know where to look...
Apparently they're calling it Clinopodium carolinianum
I added the plant... before checking to see if it was already on the site... :O
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 23, 2013 4:37 PM CST

Plants Admin

I see your proposal @stone. Ordinarily the system would have given you an automated warning that the plant already exists. It didn't because you included the genus name in the species field and mill. (the first author properly publishing a description of the plant) after the species name. We don't include the authors names.
Your proposal. Thumb of 2013-08-23/eclayne/91d604

The correct proposal would look like this:
Thumb of 2013-08-23/eclayne/e50400

Thanks for the synonym information. Adding commonly seen synonyms and Also sold as names is very important to creating a easy to search and accurate database.
Evan
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Aug 25, 2013 6:26 AM CST
The listing seems to be wrong... apparently this plant is clinopodium georgianum rather than Clinopodium carolinianum.
http://www.google.com/search?q=clinopodium+georgianum&tbm=is...
http://www.google.com/search?&q=Clinopodium+carolinianum&um=...

I shoulda done further research before blithely accepting one site's [theplantlist.org] word for it...
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 25, 2013 9:52 AM CST

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Could you provide specific references @Stone?

The Catalog of Life, ITIS, as well as The Plant List, note C. georgianum as the synonym. Referencing the Kew World Checklist of Selected Plant Families.

Evan
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