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Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
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JonnaSudenius
Aug 29, 2013 1:14 PM CST
Can you tell me if there is a book that teaches you how to recognize seeds, how to collect seeds, how to clean seeds, how to store seeds, pictures of seeds and seedpods, longevity of seeds, sowing seeds, etc.
If there is a book that is helpfull, please tell me the title and author.
If you can’t find a book about seeds, please tell me what you want to learn about seeds.
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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abhege
Aug 29, 2013 1:33 PM CST
Jonna, there are a multitude of books out there, but this might be a good place to start:

http://www.seedsave.org/issi/issi_booklinks.html

This is one my daughter got:

The thread "All about seeds" in Ask a Question forum

I'm sure ther are lots more but this is a start.
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
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JonnaSudenius
Aug 29, 2013 1:42 PM CST
Arlene, thank you for the links.
Your 2nd link (the one your daughter got) doesn't open, maybe you can post it again.

Name: Arlene
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abhege
Aug 29, 2013 1:45 PM CST
It's on Amazon, don't know if that makes a difference. It is Seed Sowing and Saving: Step-by-Step Techniques for Collecting and Growing More Than 100 Vegetables, Flowers, and Herbs (Storey's Gardening Skills Illustrated) by Carol B. Turner

http://www.amazon.com/Seed-Sowing-Saving-Step-Step/dp/158017...
Name: Jay
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Horntoad
Aug 29, 2013 1:58 PM CST
I found this book listed on amazon. It's an older book (1961) so the taxonomy is undoubtedly wrong, so it would take a little additional research to get the correct names.

Seed Identification Manual
http://www.amazon.com/Seed-Identification-Manual-Alexander-M...
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Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
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I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Aug 29, 2013 2:22 PM CST
Jay, thank you for your reply.

I get a lot of questions about seeds and now want to find out if there is a real good book that answers all the questions, so I can recommend that to people in the USA. I'm looking for a book that not only tells you how to save seeds, but also shows pictures of the plants, seeds and seedpods, And the same book must show how to collect, clean and store the seeds. And also tell you how to sow seeds, how long the seeds are viable etc. Everything that a beginner wants to know.
Your link is very useful, so thank you for that, but the book is not really for beginners and doesn't tell much about the other things beginners want to know. For me, it might be a very useful book to have in my collection.



Name: woofie
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woofie
Aug 29, 2013 4:10 PM CST
I have the older version of this book, so I don't know anything about the new, improved version. You might take a look at this link and see what you think:
http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Seed-Starters-Handbook/dp/0878...
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Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Aug 29, 2013 4:34 PM CST
Here are two links with seed and pod photos that have helped me:

http://theseedsite.co.uk/db1.html

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/joeysplanting/sets/1555243/
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Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Aug 29, 2013 5:24 PM CST
Just to keep answers together, here's my answer from another forum, re-edited:

I don't know of one book that's better than another, but here are two titles I've heard recommended several times:

The New Seed Starters Handbook (by Nancy Bubel)
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_30?url=search-alias...

This one is more for saving vegetable seeds:
Seed to Seed: Seed Saving and Growing Techniques for Vegetable Gardeners
by Suzanne Ashworth, David Cavagnaro and Kent Whealy

Here's a list of related books that Amazon offers - I can't recommend or criticize any of them :
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_11?url=search-alias...

Name: Sharon
Calvert City, KY (Zone 7a)
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Sharon
Aug 29, 2013 7:41 PM CST
You know, Jonna, with your vast knowledge and experience with wildflowers, you could no doubt write that book, complete with pictures and clear instructions for planting and growing. Smiling
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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Aug 29, 2013 8:30 PM CST
Hi Jonna,
You probably already know about the Seed Identification, and Germinating Now threads on the SRGC forum, and the Seed Starting Chronicles on the NARGS forum.

When Kristl Walek(you may also know her from the SRGC) comes out with her book, maybe in the next year or two, I think it will be the very best of all for someone like you. But it will be perhaps a bit too involved for the general reader or many of your customers.
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Aug 29, 2013 8:31 PM CST
@Sharon I think that @Jonna may be compiling info for a book. It would sure be nice to have all the info in one place and not have to hunt for it. I hope it will be an e-book.

Hey @Newyorkrita do you have any good sources for seed info?

@Leftwood can you spell out those initials for the newbies (including me), thanks.
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Newyorkrita
Aug 29, 2013 8:36 PM CST
No sorry. I am no help here. Sad
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Aug 29, 2013 9:03 PM CST
SRGC=Scottish Rock Garden Club
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4426.0
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6490.0

NARGS=North American Rock Garden Society
Recently change the forum format, and it's pretty crappy compare to what it was, but the info is still all there.
https://www.nargs.org/forum/seed-starting-chronicles-2013
https://www.nargs.org/forum/seed-starting-chronicles-2012
https://www.nargs.org/forum/seed-starting-chronicles-2011
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
Sedums Winter Sowing Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Belgium Region: Europe
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Aug 30, 2013 1:45 PM CST
Thank you all for the replies. They are all really very helpful.
Sharon: thank you for your trust in me.
Leftwood: I will check all your links too. And will try to find out what Kristl Walek will publish.
Please have a look at my reply here, so you know what my plans are. The thread "Cleaning Showy Milkweed Seeds" in Seeds forum , so you know

Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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KentPfeiffer
Aug 31, 2013 2:16 PM CST

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Bill Cullina has published two books you might find useful:

"The New England Wild Flower Society Guide to Growing and Propagating Wildflowers of the United States and Canada"

http://www.amazon.com/England-Society-Growing-Propagating-Wi...

"Native Trees, Shrubs, and Vines: A Guide to Using, Growing, and Propagating North American Woody Plants"

http://www.amazon.com/Native-Trees-Shrubs-Vines-Propagating/...

The books focus on plants that are native to the temperate regions of North America, but both contain detailed information on propagating 1000's of species, including how to harvest, store, and germinate seed.

It's not a book, but the catalog that Prairie Moon Nursery puts out each year includes vast amounts of information on germinating seeds of the 1000's species of plants they sell. Their website also includes pictures of the seeds for most of species they sell. As you might expect, most of the plants they sell are native to the upper Midwest, but still, they are a treasure trove of information.

http://www.prairiemoon.com/seeds/wildflowers-forbs/
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
Sedums Winter Sowing Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Belgium Region: Europe
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Sep 2, 2013 9:14 AM CST
Thank you Kent, I will evaluate everything and decide this winter whether I will try to write a book or not.
Name: Magga
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magga
Jul 27, 2015 9:42 AM CST
I am a beginner in seed saving. In exchange for seeds I received from a member of ATP I promised to send back seeds from a ground covering plant I have Cymbalaria pallida

http://www.lystigardur.akureyri.is/uploads/grunnur/C/Cymbala...

This is a mat forming plant with very small flowers. I planted some of it in pots and wrapped then loosely in a very thin acrylic fabric to make it easier to collect the seeds.

I would appreciate if somebody could give me some good advice on how you save seeds from such small flowers. Thank you nodding
Magga
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe (Zone 6a)
Sedums Winter Sowing Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Belgium Region: Europe
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Herbs Cut Flowers
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JonnaSudenius
Jul 27, 2015 11:25 AM CST
Magga, you can try to put organza baggies around the green seedpods, so you don't loose the seeds.
To me it seems the flowers are a bit upright, so even without bagging them, you might be able to collect them.
I have Chaenorhinum origanifolium, it seems to grow like your Cymbalaria http://www.stauden-stade.de/shop-einzelartikel.cfm?id=2973&b...
From these ones I can collect the seeds quite easy, the seedpods open at the top, so I cut the stalks off when the seeds are ripe.
I have Cymbalaria muralis, that is even smaller, but it has not set seed yet, still in full bloom. Will let you know how I did that, if I don't forget. Most plants of the same genus will set seed in the same way.

Name: Magga
Reykjavik, Iceland (Zone 4a)
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magga
Jul 27, 2015 4:38 PM CST
Thankk you Jonna for advising me regarding seed collection. I don't think I can use organza bags, the flower stalks are so tiny and soft. The flowers are also very small, maybe about 0,5 - 1,0 cm in diameter. I think I will try to cut the seedpods off when the seeds are likely to be ripe using a magnifying glass (my eyesight is getting worse).

This plant is really very beautiful. I got a small piece between my fingers from a neighbor and planted in a raised rock bed with some other low growing plants. It spread very quickly and although it is very low it seems to crawl over low plants, but it does neither crawl,under shrubs nor go into the grass. It looks great in a wide pot or as a filler between stepping stones or in it's own bed.
http://www.lystigardur.akureyri.is/uploads/grunnur/C/Cymbala...

Hope you are well Jonna. Thanks and best regards.
Magga

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