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Name: Christine
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Sep 12, 2013 10:26 AM CST
Does this plant look familiar to anyone? It just showed up a few months ago and is growing in mostly shade.


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Sep 12, 2013 1:39 PM CST
My first impression is Giant Ragweed, Ambrosia trifida Smiling
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=AMTR
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JRsbugs
Sep 12, 2013 6:53 PM CST
The two young leaves remind me of tomato, do you have anything related Christine? Hilarious!

All sorts of plants come to mind, could it be a type of Acer? Look at the young leaves of Acer nikoense ..

http://mohsho.image.coocan.jp/acerph15.html

And the leaf of Acer griseum ..

http://classes.hortla.wsu.edu/hort231/List04/Acer.html

Does it have a stem which looks like it will be woody?

Name: Christine
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Sep 13, 2013 8:13 AM CST
Okay, here are some more pictures. Maybe this will help?

The leaves seem to have a slight fuzzy feeling and the stems are hairy too.

This is what the lower leaves look like.

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Here is a top leaf.

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Stem

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One more picture. Hubby was out there looking at it yesterday and pinched the top off to take a smell. (sometimes!! Blinking ) btw, it doesn't really have a distinct smell.

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And Janet, just because I figured you would be looking, I added this BIGGY that was crawling by while I took my pictures! Hilarious!
It's HUGE!
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Name: Greene
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greene
Sep 13, 2013 8:17 AM CST
Do you have any okra family plants nearby?
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Sep 13, 2013 8:20 AM CST
I was thinking it kind-of reminds me of hibiscus leaves. Okra is on the other side of the house.
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plantladylin
Sep 13, 2013 8:20 AM CST
That plant looks so familiar, like one I found sprouting in the yard at our old house but I have no clue what it is. I wonder if the spider might be a variety of Wolf Spider.
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Name: Christine
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Sep 13, 2013 8:43 AM CST
Okay Greene, you got me to thinking about what kind of edible it could be growing there. Sooo, I remember throwing seeds out for the chickens in the spring when I opened the garden gates up for them to scratch stuff up. So I looked into it and think maybe it could be sesamum indicum?

Maybe? http://luirig.altervista.org/pics/display.php?pos=168592

Hi Lin, yes, I think you are right, it must be a wolf spider, they can get pretty big and intimidating.
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Sep 13, 2013 8:56 AM CST
More pictures of sesamum indicum:
http://tjdemogarden.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/2-1.jpg
http://www.wiu.edu/AltCrops/Othercrops_files/sesame.gif
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Sep 13, 2013 9:03 AM CST
That's some spider! Great pic of it.
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Sep 13, 2013 11:41 AM CST
Thanks for the spidey Christine! Hilarious!

The problem with Sesamum indicum is none of the leaves look to have a truncated trifoliate form. There is a variety of leaf shapes on your plant, the trifoliate ones have the middle section chopped (not pointed).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaf_shape

Cinquefoils often have that form but it doesn't seem to fit any of those, ranunculus is another.

http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/prairie/plantx/tth_cinqu...

http://www.namethatplant.net/gallery/gallery_glossary.shtml?...

I keep bouncing back to something tomato-like. Hairy stems which look soft and hairy, fuzzy leaves, but no smell. Does anything in Solanaceae fit?

Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Sep 13, 2013 3:02 PM CST
Thanks Tiffany. That spider looked like a peanut with legs, well almost! Hilarious!

Thank you for all the direction Janet. The leaves definitely do not have any tomato smell. I know what you mean about the trifoliate leaves although I noticed not all of them are truncated as some come to a point. I don't know what it could be in the Solanaceae family. Thinking out loud, I didn't grow any eggplant this year and can't think of any with similar leaves.

I did think maybe as it matures, the leaf structure might change again, as that is what it looked like the sesame plant does is some (though not very many) of the pics I looked at.

May need to wait a little longer to see what happens. Shrug!
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JRsbugs
Sep 13, 2013 3:30 PM CST
I found some young plant pics of Sesamum indicum Christine, all leaves are simple.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/79533/

Name: Greene
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greene
Sep 13, 2013 3:42 PM CST

Never even thought about sesame.
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Here is a photo I took this morning of the white sesame seed plants growing in my own garden.
I'm half blind, so you all can compare the two photos. Okay?
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Name: Christine
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wildflowers
Sep 13, 2013 3:59 PM CST
I agree with you greene, I'm no good at identifying plants so let's see what Janet or the other experts have to say. Thumbs up
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JRsbugs
Sep 13, 2013 4:24 PM CST
Your sesame seed plant does bear a striking resemblance to Christine's greene!

I'm beginning to wonder if the first photo you posted Christine is showing the leaves at a bad angle, could they be drooping at the ends and making them look not so pointed?

You will find out more when it flowers I guess.
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wildflowers
Sep 13, 2013 5:25 PM CST
Yes Janet, I must adimt my pictures are probably not showing how the leaves really look. I was having the same problem looking at my own plant! Hilarious! I'm going to wait a week and take another photo (or two).


Thank you! Smiling
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Name: Christine
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Nov 4, 2013 9:12 AM CST
My plant is looking a bit tattered. With our crazy weather, it could have gotten too hot or too cold! But, it did start to bloom.

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I put it in a pot so it could get more sun. Here's what it looked like before it started to bloom.

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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Nov 4, 2013 11:01 AM CST
That is really pretty Christine, but I don't recognize it. The leaves on the first plant you showed look different from the ones with the flower, or is it because of the close up? Smiling
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KentPfeiffer
Nov 4, 2013 12:05 PM CST

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South African foxglove (Ceratotheca triloba) perhaps?

White South African Foxglove (Ceratotheca triloba 'Alba')

http://hayefield.com/2008/08/14/three-neat-plants-mid-august...

It looks like its lower leaves are tri-lobed, but the upper leaves are not.

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