Since Peter has been doing a fantastic job of making sure the names in the database are correct (Thanks Peter!! ), I thought it would be helpful if we kept an ongoing list of the names that have been changed in the database so if we have those plants in our personal collections we can also make sure we have the correct names assigned to our plants. I'm sure everyone would certainly want their plants named correctly.

So whenever a name is changed in the database, a link to it will be added to the first post of this thread.




Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum x fauconnettii (x angustifolium))




These are the semps from Andre Smits that we had in the database under the name of Silver and have been changed to Zilver in the below semps. However both names will bring up the plant in the database. But it would be good to change the name to Zilver in your collections so we don't propagate the incorrect name.
Zilver Andre




Zilver Moon (we have no photos in our database. http://sempervivum-liste.de/Se...





Casa - Many of the plants being sold in the U.S. as 'Casa" are the incorrect plant. Please view this photo (courtesy of Beatrix Bodmeier, Bavaria/Germany) to see the correct 'Casa', and view the comments in the database entry.


Due to the scientific name changes there is a change to the semps with the name of S. erythraeum. There are three different entries for this plant.
http://garden.org/plants/searc...

Please look at the entries, and post in this thread what your source for these different semps is. We will not make any changes to these three entries until we have heard from all the members that have contributed photos to these three entries.
The current Sempervivum erythraeum (Velenovski) is the correct form, and will be changed to S. Sempervivum marmoreum subsp. erythraeum. But we can't do that until we solve the mystery of the other two semps. It may be that the other two will have to become NOIDs.


The two entries for S. rupicolum and S. x rupicolum have been merged. They are the same sempervivum sold under different names. You will still be able to find your plant with a search of Sempervivum rupicolum (synonym).

Hi Chris;

that's a prudential service for all ATP-Members

but I think the last entry isn't corrected allready; does it changes automatically after the database has been adjusted?

please don't praise me to much - it could make me bigheaded

Great idea, Chris, for a very useful thread!!! Thank you!

, Chris!

Thank you so much, Peter for all your valuable contributions!!!

Do we have it incorrect Peter?

nobody reads my comment to that database entry

oK - I should have made a data proposal...

On my way Peter. So sorry.

I think I have it now Peter.

You got it

banker07 said:please don't praise me to much - it could make me bigheaded

We greatly appreciate your help!

And thanks Lynn and Peter for fixing that entry too.

I am loving this new thread, thank you Chris for starting it.

It will be nice to have all the information in one place.

Is 'Silver Slipper' and 'Zilver Slipper' one and the same? Peter? I noticed on your website that the "silvers" are listed as "zilvers". Please take a look at the sempervivum 'Silver Slipper' in the ATP data base.

Hi Sandi,

some months ago I found out that there are a lot of cultivars from André Smits (BE) with the "Zilver" in front; the same names are at SMG without breeder-informations but the "Silver" in front;

I decided to ask SMG but I forgot it for a long time

now this question is reactivated....but I have no contact person at SMG;

in the next days I will search for all the mentioned Zilvers;

I will contact Don and see what we can find out.
In my experience Silver and Zilver in front of a name are making them the same semp. It happens when reading a site for information in English.
Peter has caught a couple of those here in our database.

Hi Lynn;

would be nice if you use your conatct;

these are the names:

Zilver Andre
Zilver Baby
Zilver Crows
Zilver Masquerade
Zilver Moon
Zliver Olympic
Zilver Slipper

they are all hybrids from André Smits;

once I found them all with "Silver" and without breederinformations at SMG;

I will just give Don a link to this page.
We should do a comparison of photos to see if they appear to be the same.
Thank you Peter. I will make the changes to the database.

Thanks for doing this Lynn, Chris and Peter - lots of work - very appreciated!

The above list of names have been corrected. If a search is done, they will come up under either spelling.

I wish some one would put a decent photo of Zilver Andre in the database, so I can delete the pitiful photo I put there. I lost the plant, so wasn't able to get a good photo.