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Name: Tara Jacksonville, Fl. (Zone 9a)              terrafirma Oct 1, 2013 1:55 PM CST |
I put some seeds of Echinacea in one pot, and Passiflora foetida in the other…I don't believe I got either one!  Any ideas?   And the other one...    |
Name: Cindi Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)              CindiKS Oct 1, 2013 2:50 PM CST |
| That first one drives me nuts. It's polygonum, aka Smartweed. It breaks off at the ground when you go to pull it. It spreads like crazy here! The second one is what we call Swamp Mallow, not sure if you have it down there. Both those weeds like pond banks, did you get your soil from a swampy place? Remember that children, marriages, and flower gardens reflect the kind of care they get. H. Jackson Brown, Jr. |
Name: Tara Jacksonville, Fl. (Zone 9a) terrafirma Oct 1, 2013 3:08 PM CST |
Very interesting Cindi, Thanks…Believe it or not, I used Miracle Gro Seed starting mix. No idea where these could have come from! But they are outta here right now! |
Name: Danita GA (Zone 7b)        Danita Oct 1, 2013 8:16 PM CST |
| The first one looks more like a Ludwigia of some sort....the little yellow flower is wrong for Polygonum. Definitely not what you planted, regardless!  |
Name: Anne Summerville, SC (Zone 8a) Only dead fish go with the flow!       Xeramtheum Oct 1, 2013 8:26 PM CST |
ACK!!!! The 2nd one is Passiflora foetida! Hope you have pulled it out! I grow the cousin, Passiflora foetida var. gossypifolia. I recognize the structures on the stem!  "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. It speaks in the language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood; No matter the skin; No matter the world; No matter the star; We are one. No matter the pain; No matter the darkness; No matter the loss; No matter the fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause. we agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." G'Kar |
Name: Cindi Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a) CindiKS Oct 2, 2013 11:12 AM CST |
| Danita, good catch! I didn't even see the little yellow flowers! Anne, the 2nd one is what she planted, then! What's the issue with that passiflora? Remember that children, marriages, and flower gardens reflect the kind of care they get. H. Jackson Brown, Jr. |
Name: Tara Jacksonville, Fl. (Zone 9a) terrafirma Oct 2, 2013 12:10 PM CST |
| I'm wondering the issue as well…My best guess would be that like a lot of Passi's, it could become weedy/invasive? I have a P. incarnata that I believe could also be called 'invasive'. Comes up everywhere! Is that the case? |
Name: Anne Summerville, SC (Zone 8a) Only dead fish go with the flow! Xeramtheum Oct 2, 2013 12:13 PM CST |
| In your zone yes and even in my zone. That's why I only grow passies in containers - in fact I never put any potentially invasive plants in the ground unless I'm more than 100% sure I can contain it. "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. It speaks in the language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood; No matter the skin; No matter the world; No matter the star; We are one. No matter the pain; No matter the darkness; No matter the loss; No matter the fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause. we agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." G'Kar |
Name: Cindi Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a) CindiKS Oct 2, 2013 1:27 PM CST |
| Last year, I bought passiflora that were not supposed to be hardy in my zone 6 garden. I planted them next to climbing roses up next to our house. They didn't grow much because we had the summer with heat from hell, so I forgot I had them. This year, they were back! They are now covering the roses and spreading all through the whole flower bed. The blooms are lovely, but I'm a little concerned that by planting them next to the warm brick house i have provided them with zone 8 protection. Even if we do get a cold winter, I may be stuck with these! Had I known about this microclimate, I would have corralled them in pots! yikes! BTW--I would never have guessed that the leaves in that second picture are passiflora. They don't look anything like the ones I have seen. I'll be on the lookout for those! Remember that children, marriages, and flower gardens reflect the kind of care they get. H. Jackson Brown, Jr. |
Name: Tara Jacksonville, Fl. (Zone 9a) terrafirma Oct 2, 2013 9:18 PM CST |
| Yes! I didn't think that they were Passi's either! I was expecting the 'lobed' leaves. I'd never seen these before either! I appreciate your incite! I may plant some more of these seeds, and contain them, as you said! See what happens, and pray that they can be 'maintained'! We'll see! |
Name: Lin Florida Zone 9b, 10a        plantladylin Oct 3, 2013 9:07 AM CST |
| Tara: The first two look like some sort of Ludwigia to me too, possibly Ludwigia alternifolia: http://uswildflowers.com/detai... https://gobotany.newenglandwil... ~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot! ~ |
Name: Tara Jacksonville, Fl. (Zone 9a) terrafirma Oct 3, 2013 9:47 AM CST |
Yes, thank you all! &  I believe it is the Ludwigia…And that is definitely not the one I planted! Appreciate your help! |
Name: Anne Summerville, SC (Zone 8a) Only dead fish go with the flow! Xeramtheum Oct 3, 2013 10:29 AM CST |
Passiflora leaves vary in color and shape considerably. Here are pictures of the leaf and flower of the P. foetida var. gossypifolia.  "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice. It speaks in the language of hope; It speaks in the language of trust; It speaks in the language of strength, and the language of compassion. It is the language of the heart and the language of the soul. But always, it is the same voice. It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, And the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: We are one. No matter the blood; No matter the skin; No matter the world; No matter the star; We are one. No matter the pain; No matter the darkness; No matter the loss; No matter the fear; We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause. we agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular rule: That we must be kind to one another, because each voice enriches us and ennobles us, and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." G'Kar |
Name: Tara Jacksonville, Fl. (Zone 9a) terrafirma Oct 3, 2013 10:44 AM CST |
Oooo, Very pretty!  |
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