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Name: David Paul
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DavidofDeLand
Oct 16, 2013 12:43 PM CST
I have 2 succulents growing in a container I have no name for. Both are growing next to each other.

The segmented flat paddle one with the reddish tinge at bottom left in first picture. It gets covered in flowers in late Fall and Winter. Little yellow flowers form simultaneously at every indenture in the leaves from bottom to tips. It has nice hanging basket qualities. I believe it is some sort of Euphorbia (Isn't everything Ha!) I started searching a while back and searched a long while before I even tipped the family Euphorbias iceberg! Thank you.

The tall leggy plant covered in spines loses it leaves in occasionally. I wonder if it blooms? I don't know what it is either, and have never seen a bloom if it does?
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 16, 2013 1:07 PM CST
That really "mean" looking one reminds me of Euphorbia milii…But I don't think it's quite right. I feel certain you would see a E.milii blooming. Blinking
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 16, 2013 1:09 PM CST
David, the flat segmented plant spilling over the container edge looks like Rhipsalis elliptica: Rhipsalis elliptica
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 16, 2013 1:35 PM CST
My first thought on the second plant was also Euphorbia millii but as Tara said, something isn't quite right.

http://photos.wildmadagascar.org/images/pictures/madagascar_...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjb5/5862518096/

Or possibly this one:
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 16, 2013 1:58 PM CST
I agree The flat one does look like Rhipsalis.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 16, 2013 3:13 PM CST
I have a few Rhipsalis but no longer have R. elliptica whose leaves do blush red when they receive a bit of sun. These are old photo's but I thought I'd post them for comparison, solid green when grown in bright shade, blushed red when given more sun and tiny little yellowish flowers:
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Name: David Paul
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DavidofDeLand
Oct 17, 2013 3:13 AM CST
Thank you very much Lynn and Tara,

Lynn, you were absolutely right aboput the paddle segemented one. It is Rhipsalis elliptica! I just made 3 new hanging baskets and don't like selling things I don't know the name of! Smiling
That second thorny Cactus is very tough and rigid and almost woody. Its not neriifolia but it is close I'm sure. I believe it is a Euphorbia.

Tara;...It does have a lot of similarities to crown of thorns. Thank you for trying to help! Smiling
Name: David Paul
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DavidofDeLand
Oct 18, 2013 12:24 PM CST
Someone here has got to know what that thorny thing is? Hilarious!
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Leftwood
Oct 18, 2013 8:56 PM CST
It looks like it's related to the Crown of Thorns (Euphorbia milii).
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 19, 2013 7:14 AM CST
I agree, I thought someone already ID'd it as E. milii?

Check out these images for comparison:

http://www.florafinder.com/Species/Euphorbia_milii_var_splen...

http://www.henriettesherbal.com/pictures/p06/pages/euphorbia...

http://plantsrescue.com/euphorbia-milii/
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Name: David Paul
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DavidofDeLand
Oct 19, 2013 7:34 AM CST
I appreciate the help but I have E. Milii and this is not one of them. Thank you though!
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DavidofDeLand
Oct 19, 2013 7:56 AM CST
This first and second picture are of my E. Milii...
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The plant in question has very symmetrical rows of vertical thorns and the same pattern of tiny symmetrical leaves from bottom to top. Notice the deep vertical grooves on the stems in between the thorns too... Thank you! Smiling
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Oct 19, 2013 10:03 AM CST
You know, I think I have seen this thing before - how about Alluaudia comosa? Or Alluaudia humbertii?
http://www.out-of-africa-plants.com/2006PlantCatalog.htm
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Swayback
Oct 19, 2013 10:38 AM CST
Ya beat me to it Ursula!

No doubt it alludia, a plant I had and miss very much!

Leaves emerge oriented as most leaves are, and then twist 180 degrees!

They can get big!
There thorns aren't very sharp.
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Name: David Paul
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DavidofDeLand
Oct 19, 2013 10:46 AM CST
Thanks for the great lead Ursula! Thumbs up

After a little research following your lead, I was able to confirm it as Alluaudia procera (Syn: Didiera procera)
http://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/ALLUAUDIA/Alluaudia_procera...
This site will tell more about it for anyone interested.

Thank you everybody!
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 19, 2013 11:17 AM CST
Good eye Urusula!

David: Check out Robertduval14's photo's in the database: Madagascar Ocotillo (Alluaudia procera)
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Name: David Paul
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DavidofDeLand
Oct 19, 2013 11:50 AM CST
Roberts pictures were great!;......and if thats Hetti's garden that her database picture was taken in;... "Holy Moly!!!"
Even if that is a friends garden, How beautiful @Dutchlady1 !
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Oct 19, 2013 12:04 PM CST
team effort! Smiling
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Oct 19, 2013 12:06 PM CST
Thumbs up Smiling
Name: David Paul
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DavidofDeLand
Oct 19, 2013 12:30 PM CST
I appreciated your input to Swayback, and especially bringing attention to the fact the thorns are actually not as painful as they look! Smiling Thumbs up

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