Wildflowers forum: Angularfruit Milkvine seeds (Gonolobus suberobus)

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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Nov 7, 2013 7:12 AM CST
Typo in title that I can't correct - it's Gonolobus suberosus


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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Nov 7, 2013 11:34 AM CST

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That looks great Tee, have the Monarchs or Queens laid eggs on it? Smiling
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SongofJoy
Nov 7, 2013 11:53 AM CST
I'm not sure, Jo. The vine has taken off into the back woods a bit and I can't see it back there too well (poison ivy in that area). I've had Monarchs and Queens so I hope they are enjoying it. They are enjoying something :)
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Nov 7, 2013 2:36 PM CST

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I check Wildflower.org and they have it listed as Matelea gonocarpos with Gonolobus suberosus as a synonym.
I wonder which of the names is the most current one?

http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=MAGO

In any event it is native to Texas as well which makes me very happy.
It seem that with milkweed plants becoming more and more scarce the milkweed vines are going to play a more and more important role in the survival of the Monarchs and Queens.

I have Funastrum cynanchoides which has done very well for us but mine hasn't made seed yet, we shall see. Smiling
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SongofJoy
Nov 7, 2013 4:15 PM CST
I think the Plant Admins here use ITIS and then check elsewhere. It's current to 2011 so I don't know. I just go by what they seem to use here.

I agree about the milkweeds. They are becoming more and more crucial in the survival of some of the species.

Forgot the link:
http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic...

http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic...
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Nov 7, 2013 4:38 PM CST

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So they are saying that Matelea is the old name and Gonolobus the new one.?
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Name: Jay
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Horntoad
Nov 7, 2013 5:25 PM CST
ITIS shows Gonolobus suberosus as the accepted name. The Wildflower Center does not keep their plant names updated.
wildflowersoftexas.com
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Nov 7, 2013 10:50 PM CST

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Wow! that is surprising, I thought they were the ones to go to for native plants!!
USDA had the same name as the Wildflower Center.
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Horntoad
Nov 7, 2013 10:56 PM CST
Wildflower Center database is good for information about the plants, and their search features are great. But for correct names, both Wildflower Center and USDA are out of date. I use Itis for correct names and Biotia of North America for distribution and nativity information.
wildflowersoftexas.com
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Nov 8, 2013 7:32 AM CST

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Thank you Jay, it is sad that we have to go to a few different places to find all the needed information.
It seems to me that they should be able to afford to keep up with changes, they are big and i am sure have plenty of help. Smiling
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LindaTX8
Nov 8, 2013 6:19 PM CST
It's bound to be better than some plant books. One book, Wildflowers of the Texas Hill Country, which is the go-to guidebook for the Hill Country of Texas, was published in 1987, and reprints have come out periodically since that time. It has never been updated in any way whatsoever since that time.
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Nov 8, 2013 6:26 PM CST

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I really like the Wildflower Center site, but I guess they really need to catch up with the new names for plants.
Oh well Rolling my eyes.
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LindaTX8
Nov 8, 2013 10:33 PM CST
I'll bet a good software program with access to the right data could do it more or less automatically on an online site. This site seems to keep up pretty good...is it software or is it done the time-consuming hard way, I wonder?
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Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Nov 8, 2013 11:05 PM CST

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I have no idea Linda, but I suspect it is the hard way.
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