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Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
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AR
Dec 9, 2013 2:01 PM CST
Hi, I am very new to cacti and succulent and I am in love. I wish they came with more info any ideas of who they are? The first one came just like that I just repotted it last night it has rose colored tips. Are the protrusions pups? I think the second is aloe that is what I asked for in the shop but the guy didn't look very sure. The third i just don't know either. Confused


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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Dec 9, 2013 2:09 PM CST
Welcome! AR!
Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
Region: New York Cactus and Succulents Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
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AR
Dec 9, 2013 2:18 PM CST
Thanks Hetty Great to be here! Hurray!
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
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Swayback
Dec 9, 2013 3:22 PM CST
Howdy AR

Welcome to an addicting world of plants!

They were my main introduction into horticulture too.

So...what you have are some pretty nice plants there!

The first one is an opuntia, I forget the Latin but it's commonly known as Joseph's coat.
It can make green white yellow and if given enough light, pink too.
If you get a plain branch, remove it and root it, it will outgrow the variegated parts!
Any branch or nub, or protrusion can be cut off and let dry a few days, place in dry soil and wait atleast a few weeks to water, they will root and grow with ease!
Those tiny nubs take a LONG time to size up!

The second one may be an aloe, I think it's their first cousin gasteria, the dark slick leaves give it away, but the spiral arrangement of the leaves may mean it's a hybrid, possibly gasteria X aloe, or gasteria X haworthia.
I can't ID it any better than that, more pics might help.
I'm honestly rather taken with it! Come spring I'd happily trade you a few plants if mine for a few leaves from that plant, I can most liky root them, unless it is a true aloe, their leaves won't root. Or if it happens to pup all the better!

The third ones kinna sketchy, better pics would definate help here!
That said, it looks to be a mammillaria cactus, it's a huge genus with many MANY, similar species, best of luck coming up with the proper species name...

They are all reasonably easy to care for, just make sure they dry out before you water, then water well! Basic c&s culture.

Hope this helps

Enjoy ATP!
Please tree mail me for trades, I'm ALWAYS actively looking for more new plants, and love to trade!
Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
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DavidofDeLand
Dec 9, 2013 3:37 PM CST
Welcome!
Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
Region: New York Cactus and Succulents Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
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AR
Dec 9, 2013 4:24 PM CST
Thanks for all that info swayback! When I saw that first one I didn't even look at the price I just had to have it! As for the aloe that is a pup I already divided it and got about eleven new plants! I am happy to trade they all seem to be doing well so far.


Hi David thanks for the welcome. I just visited your magical world, your mini gardens are so special.
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
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Swayback
Dec 9, 2013 7:26 PM CST
Do you have a local nursery that you got those from?
What was the source, they clearly aren't from the big store.

How big is that "aloe"?

Please tree mail me for trades, I'm ALWAYS actively looking for more new plants, and love to trade!
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Dec 9, 2013 8:26 PM CST
Hi AR! Welcome!
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Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
Region: New York Cactus and Succulents Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
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AR
Dec 9, 2013 8:27 PM CST
I wandered into a local florist that had a small selection of succulents and cacti. The original aloe was bursting out of a 4" pot. This is the repotted mother it measures about 8" across 5 1/2 " high. The marker was from costa farms.
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I think you are right I remember now asking for a haworthia and the guy handing me this plant I wanted the one with the white stripes but this was so healthy and beautiful I took it anyway Smiling

I hope these pictures help.
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Dec 9, 2013 8:38 PM CST
I didn't know haworthia's get that large. It is possibly a hybrid though (aloe haworthia) It is a pretty plant! Thanks for more photos!
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Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
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AR
Dec 9, 2013 8:57 PM CST
Yeah everything I've read about them they only reach about 5" so this may be a hybrid. Lot's of hybrids to make things more confusing Blinking Blinking Confused
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Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
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Swayback
Dec 9, 2013 9:00 PM CST
There are some pretty hefty haws out there, I don't think that's one tho, the blurriness makes it hard to say but I'm goin with gasteraloe.
They are nice whatever it is.
Costa is terrible about tagging plants.

If you are interested in swapping come spring, I'll be sure to put your name on a couple of my haworthias for ya! I think I have just the ones your talkin about!
I'm posting pics of my lil haw collection in its own thread, come check em out!

Don't water those newly potted ones for a few weeks, if you already did, try to dry em out, it can cause rot.
Please tree mail me for trades, I'm ALWAYS actively looking for more new plants, and love to trade!
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Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
Region: New York Cactus and Succulents Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
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AR
Dec 9, 2013 9:10 PM CST
Thanks sway I'd be happy to trade I will save some for ya.
I will let them dry out thanks again Big Grin
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Dec 10, 2013 7:15 PM CST
Hi AR, I forgot to answer your question...I just recieved this from a plant friend, and she said its more than 20 years old!!
Its amazing to me how old some of these plants can be!! I tip my hat to you.
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Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
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DavidofDeLand
Dec 10, 2013 7:23 PM CST
Thank you AR!

I grow that same dark green Aloe and have found that it really likes shady situations here in Central Florida. Sun scorches them like a banshee and turns them a ruddy brown color. These are great houseplants in brightly lighted windows without direct Sun.

Good Night!
Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
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Swayback
Dec 10, 2013 7:33 PM CST
You think it's a true aloe species, David?

It really doesn't look like it from the pics, but you sound pretty confident.
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Name: David Paul
(Zone 9b)
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DavidofDeLand
Dec 10, 2013 7:47 PM CST
Yes Sway. I will share some pictures tommorrow of them. I got them a few years back from a great little nursery called Dutch Mill in Sanford. (They don't have a website that details their plants unfortunately) I'll try to find out from them and be more informational.

In the meantime, AR might submit her nice pic's to plant I.D. forum?
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
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pod
Dec 11, 2013 6:23 AM CST
If I may meddle, the second photo is a hybrid aloe. As I understand, a common indicator of a hybrid succulent is to multiply rapidly and these will. I've had one for years and had trouble IDing it. Narrowed it down to perhaps either Walmseys' bronze or Webleys' bronze. http://gosucculent.com/store2/succulents/aloe-hybrid-webleys...

It gets the bronze in its' name due to the coloring it takes on when in full sun. In bright light (not direct sun) it takes on a rich, lush green.

Pretty plant that suckers freely and allows a plant nut to share with others. Definitely one to get you hooked on succulents!



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Swayback
Dec 11, 2013 8:36 AM CST
Ok...here we go... Blinking

First, awesome link, I've not scoped that site before, thanks!

Second, what your describing is hybrid vigor, hetrosis.
It can be very misleading!
Just because a plant grows, or pups fast means very little, to show hybrid vigor you must first know the parentage!
To say a plant multiplies fast, is one thing, to say it multiplies fast, therefore it's a hybrid, is very much starting at an arbitrary point. You must be able to say FASTER than it parents! We are no where near being able to make that statement! In my eyes of course.

We are likely talking about an intergenetic hybrid too, that adds even more depth to the equation.

Third, I'm not the woody lily master, I'm only learning, the biggest thing I see that steered me away from an aloe hybrid and towards a gasteriaXaloe cross, is the lack of lateral teeth on the leaf, and what spears to be a terminal spine of sorts.
Aloes almost always have more than a single point on the tip of each leaf, gasteria on the other hand, very rarely have more than one. Haws can be anything...

I have a var. walmseys green, it certainly is very different from the pictured plant...I didn't even know about webleys aloe, it doesn't look like it to me either, from the pics.

Do you have any pics handy of yours @pod?
Please tree mail me for trades, I'm ALWAYS actively looking for more new plants, and love to trade!
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Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
Region: New York Cactus and Succulents Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Dec 11, 2013 8:49 AM CST
Wow I woke up to so much valuable information great way to start the day!

Thanks David they sure do multiply I divided it soon after I got it home because I read the off shoots would eventually suck the live out of the mother plant I don't know if that's true but my family and friends where happy to get some new plants! In the end I got eleven!!! out of a 4" pot Pretty cool since I paid about 5 bucks for it Hurray!

Thanks for the link and info Kristi I will check that out today Thumbs up

Thanks Greg so maybe mine is 10yrs old Hilarious! I think I will try to grow from seed and maybe I can will them to my family and friends Hilarious!
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