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Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Jan 21, 2014 2:25 PM CST

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I have a while to wait before starting my 'maters. It's currently 15° with a wind chill of -2. Sad

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Name: Allison
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Onewish1
Jan 21, 2014 3:46 PM CST

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14 here.. will be a while for me too
Name: Linda
SE Houston, Tx. (Hobby) (Zone 9a)
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Gymgirl
Jan 21, 2014 4:24 PM CST
Uh, ya'll are joking, right?

It was a BALMY 78 degrees yesterday, with full on sunshine and a gentle breeze. I had to exchange my undershirt AND my sweatshirt for a T-shirt.

Wow!
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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woofie
Jan 21, 2014 4:32 PM CST
Hey, it was positively tropical here yesterday. I think it got all the way up to 29.
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Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Jan 21, 2014 4:56 PM CST

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No joke, Linda. Look at the national news. We also got about 5" of fresh snow today.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/21/...
Much of the country is paralyzed by cold and snow. Our actual low temp tonight is supposed to be -2. Wind chill will be colder.

I sorted through some seeds today. Some are pretty old. I picked out a few to wintersow, though I haven't started sowing yet.

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Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Jan 21, 2014 5:24 PM CST
Today we had sun without warmth. Then it got windy.
At the moment the wind is so strong I am waiting for a tree to fall through the roof...and hoping it won't.
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Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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abhege
Jan 21, 2014 7:20 PM CST
Yep, been very cold nights here. My heater in GH isn't able to keep up so I lost a lot of plants. Mostly coleus I had taken cuttings of. Oh well, that's how it goes.
Name: Allison
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Onewish1
Jan 21, 2014 7:49 PM CST

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so glad I didn't try to heat the GH this year.. but no not kidding.. 10 now .. real feel -16 tonight.. and around a foot of snow
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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Joannabanana
Jan 21, 2014 8:05 PM CST
Arlene,
If you cover the greenhouse with a bedspread for the night, you will be shocked on the difference it will make. Your heater will probably keep up
Name: Arlene
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abhege
Jan 21, 2014 8:07 PM CST
Joanne, thanks for the tip! Too late for tonight but good advice for after I remove the frosty stuff and start putting seedlings in!
Name: Evelyn
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evelyninthegarden
Jan 22, 2014 4:45 PM CST
I have read that you also may use bubble wrap! (They do that in the UK.) Smiling
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Jan 22, 2014 4:51 PM CST
I don't have anything started in the GH just yet (soon...soon), but I've often used bubble wrap over individual trays sitting on heat mats to help hold the heat in. Cheaper to cover the flats than try to keep the whole GH warm.
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Name: Arlene
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abhege
Jan 22, 2014 5:06 PM CST
Stuff in Gh was just things I was trying to over winter. There's actually quite a few things that are okay, just the tenders didn't make it. I think I like the blanket idea best cause it would be fairly easy to toss over an old comforter or two.
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jan 22, 2014 5:35 PM CST
Decades ago I read a book about winter gardening in Maine. That author had really big, stand-up hoop tunnels with heavy plastic film,

Under that, floating row covers.

Under that sometimes, cloches.

He figured that each layer gave him some number of degrees more warmth, at least in the coldest part of the night. But it was important not to let the heat out, especially in the late afternoon and at night.

I really like the idea of bubble wrap, a blanket or even polyfilm over seedling trays and heat mats. Anything that keeps air from floating up and away keeps a lot of heat from escaping, and heat mats don't put out very much heat!

Looking around online, I see heat mats for home growers rated at 17, 22 or 25 Watts per tray. One commercial brand had models rated at 40 or 50 Watts per tray - thermostats must REALLY be necessary with those!

The "hobby" brands suggested that they could raise the soil temperature by 10-15 F, but never specified whether that was with or without insulation and a heat dome or tent.

I always have drywall (also called plasterboard, wallboard, gypsum board or sheetrock) under my heat pad. Capturing the heated air is so much harder that I usually don't try, except for trays that still have a humidity dome on.

But I really like the idea of draping something over the lights, the trays, the heating pads and everything.
Name: woofie
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woofie
Jan 22, 2014 5:46 PM CST
I have a bunch of the tall humidity domes just for helping keep the heat in during very cold temps. And for taller plants, I'll rig up a wire frame that I can drape bubble wrap over. And on REALLY cold nights, I've been known to drape a blanket over all.
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Name: Arlene
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abhege
Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM CST
I have some freesias planted in a box right outside my front door. When it's supposed to get cold at night I drape an old rug over them. They were already broken down so figure it can't hurt any more and if I don't, they will freeze.
Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Jan 23, 2014 10:58 AM CST
One of the things I look for at yard sales is old blankets/comforters. I have quite a collection to be used in the cold weather. My neighbors must think I have no home-decorating sense with all the crazy colors and patterns.

I only had a little 6 X 8 zippy greenhouse but I covered it with 3 comforters and topped that with a layer of thick plastic to keep the fabric dry if it rained. It's learning process.
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Name: Linda
SE Houston, Tx. (Hobby) (Zone 9a)
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Gymgirl
Jan 23, 2014 11:22 AM CST
I stopped at the Goodwill store yesterday and bought two large sheets to cover the onions I just planted Monday. The 4 mil plastic over my veggie hoops will hold, but, I've got a couple mini greenhouses I need to shore up.

Linda
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Jan 23, 2014 1:11 PM CST
Greene, if you want to tell your friends on this thread about out little sweet shrub experiment, I have a few packs to send out Monday and I still have a few packs I am willing to share. No charge No postage. Yours went out Tuesday before the snow started. We have a foot now and more coming this weekend. This has been a fun winter so far.
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evelyninthegarden
Jan 23, 2014 7:53 PM CST
JB ~ What "sweet shrub experiment"??? I'm all ears!
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