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Jan 6, 2014 9:59 PM CST
Name: Annette
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I have had this rose for several years, and I've lost the tag. Does anyone have an idea of which one it could be? It is definitely a climber, almost thornless, and has a wonderful sent, with blooms about 3-4 inches wide. It blooms beautifully in the spring, and sporadically for the rest of the year until frost. I would greatly appreciat any help with the identification.






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Jan 6, 2014 10:25 PM CST
Name: Annette
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Here's a picture of the entire plant. Any idea of what it could be?


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Jan 6, 2014 11:21 PM CST
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The shape of the blooms reminds me of the Austin roses, many of which display a climbing habit, or the roses of the Romantica line, although I can't find one with this combination of colors.
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Jan 7, 2014 9:57 PM CST
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It looks like it smells beautifully! And it looks old. It's lovely!
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Jan 8, 2014 5:31 AM CST
Name: Annette
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zuzu and Julia,

Thank you both for responding. It is a lovely rose, and it does have a wonderful scent. I will do some research regarding the Austin and Romantica roses that may have this color and the characteristics.

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Jan 8, 2014 7:53 AM CST
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The color resembles that of my Teasing Georgia but the form of the bloom does not. Quite lovely whoever she may be!
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Jan 8, 2014 2:12 PM CST
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On the Austin website, Jude the Obscure has somewhat close coloring and form, but don't see anything about thorns. Be eager to find out if it is identified. I'm all about thornless roses. Hilarious!
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Jan 8, 2014 4:23 PM CST
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Jude the Obscure is one of the almost thornless roses in our database.

Rose (Rosa 'Jude the Obscure')
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Jan 8, 2014 9:14 PM CST
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Thank you, Zuzu. Smiling
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Jan 8, 2014 10:17 PM CST
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My first thought was Teasing Georgia, mostly because of the coloring, more of a cream and soft gold. On HMF someone commented " I found it only moderately thorny, certainly not excessively so". Jude the Obscure to my eye is more peachy and often with touches of pink.
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Jan 8, 2014 10:40 PM CST
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Teasing Georgia is another possibility, and it does tend to grow taller than Jude the Obscure, but I remember people complaining about its vicious thorns, and the blooms seem different -- almost quartered rather than cupped.

Rose (Rosa 'Teasing Georgia')

Debra, you probably know how to find all of the thornless or almost thornless roses in our database, but in case you don't, here's the way to find them. Go to the main page of the Roses Database (accessible from any rose entry by clicking on "Roses Database" at the top of the page):

The Roses Database

Click on "Search by characteristics" and then check the box saying "Thornless or almost thornless" on this page:

http://garden.org/plants/group...

You'll get a list of 215 roses (as of today).
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Jan 9, 2014 8:19 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
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My Teasing Georgia definitely has thorns!
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Jan 9, 2014 8:36 AM CST
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Yea Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
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Jan 9, 2014 1:47 PM CST
Name: Annette
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zuzu,

Thanks for the great links. My rose does look similar to Jude the Obscure, except mine grows taller, and seems to have more yellow in the blooms.

I'm still looking over the David Austin website, and I will be be looking at the Romantica roses.

I greatly appreciate everyone's responses.

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Jan 9, 2014 3:34 PM CST
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Those of us who live in warm climates often find that out Austins grow larger than described.
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Jan 9, 2014 3:45 PM CST
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That's true. My Jude the Obscure sends up 6-foot canes regularly. I prune them down to 4 feet because the rose bush is in the middle of a rose bed and I don't want it to obscure other roses (see what I did there?) Big Grin

Annette, you can find all of the Austin roses in our database by entering David Austin on the hybridizer line of the "Search by characteristics" form in the Roses Database.

The Romanticas are a little harder to find, but they're all accessible if you type Romantica on the "Other" line in the "Class" section of the "Search by characteristics" form.
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Jan 9, 2014 7:49 PM CST
Name: Annette
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porkpal, thanks for letting me know that the Austin roses can grow taller than listed in warmer climates. I did not know that.

zuzu, I've spent hours looking at the different roses. Here are the contenders,

Jude the Obscure
Golden Celebration
Charlotte
Charles Darwin

These 4 roses are similar in color to mine. The only one that comes up as thornless is Jude the Obscure. I've also been on the Austin website looking at the roses there as well. They did not list if the plants were thornless or not. My rose does have long canes, and the flowers do fade from the original color to an almost sandy-cream. I'll have to pay more attention to the scent when it blooms this spring.
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Jan 9, 2014 8:45 PM CST
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Look at this photo of Charles Darwin:

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...

It's a dead ringer for your rose. The buds are the right color too. Furthermore, according to HMF.com, this is a thornless or almost thornless rose. I'll add that information to the Charles Darwin entry in our database.
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Jan 9, 2014 9:02 PM CST
Name: Debra
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That photo nails it, Zuzu.
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Jan 9, 2014 9:48 PM CST
Name: Annette
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That photo of Charles Darwin is a very good match, Hurray! Hurray! Even the mature blooms are similar in color!
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