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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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tarev
Mar 18, 2014 12:24 PM CST
Have potted some baby Echeveria 'Paul Bunyan' yesterday, have left them about to callus for a few days. Mommy plant very actively blooming and making new growth in between leaves and very prominent caruncles.

mother plant:
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new babies:
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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Mar 18, 2014 6:57 PM CST
Love the little book end planters with round noses... Big Grin
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Mar 18, 2014 9:49 PM CST
Cute babies (or as Bev would say "charges") Tarev!! I love those piggy planters too!! Hurray! Hurray!

Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
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AR
Mar 19, 2014 9:20 AM CST
HI everyone I am hoping someone can shed some light on what is happening to my euphorbia and how I can turn things around. Thank You!


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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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tarev
Mar 19, 2014 10:27 AM CST
Hello Angela Smiling

Some questions about it first:
1) Is that plant newly repotted?
2) Is that pure sand as its soil and if not, what kind of soil is below it?
3) Is that container with drain holes?
4) Have you been watering it? How often did you do it? It does not like too much watering during the cold season.

To me it looks like it is over watered. But sometimes over and under watering symptoms look the same. So we explore how you have planted it.
Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Mar 19, 2014 10:34 AM CST
I agree
I garden for the pollinators.
Name: Kim Jacobi
Van Nuys, CA (Zone 10a)
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LAGardengirl
Mar 19, 2014 11:40 AM CST
Tarev, I've had the same problem with not knowing if I was over or under watering plants. I've killed plants with both.
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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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tarev
Mar 19, 2014 11:51 AM CST
That happened to me too Kim, in my early days of succulent growing..I just had to take pictures from season to season for comparison and feel the soil if in doubt if it is too wet. Have learned to use smaller containers, to help in making it drain out faster. Helps to know if the succulent is alpine, tropical, desert type, so I can adjust its watering & lighting needs.
Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
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AR
Mar 19, 2014 1:05 PM CST
Hi Tarev great questions and thank you.

I bought this plant last october without roots. The soil is for succulents the sand is only decoration. The pot has a hole and I water is very little maybe once a month. The last time I watered it it was during our coldest snap and it was near a drafty window not sure if that matters. Before that watering it was on that same window with no problems all winter I just don't know what I did Shrug! . Can it be saved!!! Crying
All input is appreciated
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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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tarev
Mar 19, 2014 2:05 PM CST
If it was planted in October, it was getting into the cold season. Watering it while it is still adjusting to its potting situation plus the timing of your watering on a cold snap with that drafty window may have caused that middle part to wilt.

I think it can still be saved..if it were my plant, and Spring is coming about anyways, I would pull that plant out to inspect the root section. If it is soft and mushy, chop off that portion and let it callus for a few days to a week. Consider putting it in a smaller container too, I think what you are using is way too big for now. Also try to add more pumice into your soil.

As much as possible I try to do succulent repotting in Spring.
Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
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AR
Mar 19, 2014 3:55 PM CST
Thanks Tarev i will take your advice . Thank You! Hurray!
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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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tarev
Mar 19, 2014 3:58 PM CST
Good luck Angela! Am curious now too, how the root section of your plant looks like. Hope you can get photos so we can see.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Mar 19, 2014 4:04 PM CST
Isn't Tarev marvelous? Smiling
Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
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AR
Mar 19, 2014 7:38 PM CST
Yes Bev Tarev is marvelous Hurray! So I inspected the root no rot thank goodness I will post pics tomorrow I'm not on the good computer right now. I don't see a developed root system maybe the very beginning of a root coming out. I have three others who have nothing at all since October now I know not to buy succulent cuttings so late in the season.I will repot them all in a smaller pot and see what happens this soil is very well draining.
Thanks so much I have hope for them now Big Grin
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Mar 20, 2014 2:04 AM CST
Another thing that I've noticed, which may seem obvious, but it took me years to follow...even in cold weather, when I do water, I use warm water, and try to water first thing in the morning. The plants seem to have really responded to these simple changes!! Good luck Angela! Good advice Tarev! Thumbs up

Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Mar 20, 2014 4:33 AM CST
webesemps said:Isn't Tarev marvelous? Smiling


Yes, she's definitely found her passion. Lovey dubby

Good advice about the water, Greg. That's something a lot of people might not think of. I use warmer water/room temperature as well in the winter.
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Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
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AR
Mar 20, 2014 7:50 AM CST
Here are the pics the up close one is what I think is the root system forming and then the three that have not rooted yet. I repotted every one in the smallest pot I could find.
Greg I agree I started watering with warm water years ago when I read that it may shock the plant to have cold water.
Greg when you do water how much? Should I just sprinkle water on the surface ?I thought one thorough watering once a month would be enough.It would be a shame to lose them now that it's getting warmer.


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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Mar 20, 2014 8:08 PM CST
Angela I'm kind of new with succulents, for me they are the plants that thrive in summer and nearly die and often look dead in winter - indoors, crowding my studio apartment in a way that can only speak of plant mania!!!
But I have fresh air!! Rolling on the floor laughing So...I fully agree with what Tarev suggested.
I have learnt from loosing plants that watering once per week is okay, but just a touch, no where near the amount of what tropicals take (which is what I'm used to...you can't saturate the soil for succulents in winter, you'll kill them. Just a sip of water is what I do.
Then a plant lady that I bought some aloe from suggested that I mist the plants - I thought they wouldn't want their leaves wet, but she said just mist lightly and they'll be happy, they take up some water through their leaves.
It is totally a juggling act for me though, between not watering and having all the leaves dry up, or watering and getting rot! I've had much fewer losses this winter.
I am counting on the sticks (literally no leaves, just stumpy dry sticks) of my Aeonium coming back once I put it back outdoors! Rolling on the floor laughing
I won't show what they look like now but this is what it was last fall when I brought it inside - the pot is a 32inch pot They were simply magical...and now - sticks...like I said though, I am counting on them coming back Smiling Good luck with you. - asking questions and letting us know what you're doing will help though, because I've found people on ATP to be very willing to share knowledge - and each one of us does something just a bit different and I think we all learn from this interaction of ideas!! Cheers I tip my hat to you.
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ssgardener
Mar 21, 2014 4:05 AM CST
Hi Greg!

I've actually found aeoniums to be very thirsty! They're winter growers, and take a *lot* of water compared to some of the other succulents I have, even other winter growers.

Also, planting them in a well-draining mix makes it nearly impossible to over water them. I hope yours comes back! Those are gorgeous pictures. Lovey dubby I think aeoniums may be my favorites succulents (for now). Smiling
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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tarev
Mar 21, 2014 9:59 AM CST
Thanks for the photo of the root section Angela! Plant has a good fighting chance!! Just do not water too much yet. It is still developing the roots. Agree with using warm water and watering thoroughly once a month works if the plant has already made a good root system. Your plant is just barely pushing out the roots, so it is a bit slow process. It will be adjusting in its set-up. Since it is Spring and warmth still slowly coming about, do not be too heavy in watering, just enough to moisten the soil. I have learned to water on the farther edge of the container, and not too close to the stem.

I think with succulents, the hardest part at times is leaving them alone Big Grin Put the plant in semi-shade for now, not in full sun yet.

@gg5, I have always loved and enjoyed Aeoniums and have been growing them outdoors in a container year round. They survive so well here in any season. But then again our winters are much milder, we do get wet winters, but the rain is in hiatus this time, so my plants just enjoyed the cool temps. Hope your plants start growing back its leaves. As long as the stems are not mushy it is alive. Just taking its sweet time. I have one stem that I have chopped off the head, and it took about a year to start growing new rosettes, such a slow process. I am leaving it alone, letting it do its very slow growing. Big Grin

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