Irises forum: Extra Falls?

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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 26, 2014 3:41 PM CST
I have looked for other examples of this aberation but have had little to find. Ive seen one other iris that had double everything and it was a single event on one plant. This clump has several (5) so far that have four falls. I was trying to find out this ones name and took some photos. Anyone know it. What I would realy love to see other examples in irises if anyone has pics?
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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KentPfeiffer
Mar 26, 2014 3:47 PM CST

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It occurs pretty routinely here in Standard Dwarf and Intermediate irises. I think it is related to fluctuations in temperature while the buds are developing, but that's just a guess.
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grannysgarden
Mar 26, 2014 4:44 PM CST
Leslieray, one little SDB called 'Cup of Joy' has six standards and six falls most of the time. It is pale shades of pink with blue beards if I recall. I do not have it anymore.
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Paul2032
Mar 26, 2014 4:54 PM CST
I see it once in a while but I only take pictures of what I consider near perfect blossoms. SDB Puddy Tat does it often.....so I don't like it much.
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grannysgarden
Mar 26, 2014 5:14 PM CST
I don't have Puddy Tat but its on my list.
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tveguy3
Mar 26, 2014 5:28 PM CST
Just today I was looking at one of my pictures with 4 of everything, and I can't find it now. I have also had one with only 2 stadards and fall, it was one of my historics.
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 26, 2014 6:17 PM CST
Very interesting to me. Thank you all.
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grannysgarden
Mar 26, 2014 6:37 PM CST
I have an old purple iris called 'flat broke' that both the standards and falls are flat and droop. looks like six falls.
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lovemyhouse
Mar 26, 2014 7:28 PM CST
@Calif_Sue posted a really nice photo of Jazzamatazz with an extra fall.

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Misawa77
Mar 26, 2014 7:29 PM CST
That could be "Hot Fudge".
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Calif_Sue
Mar 26, 2014 9:46 PM CST

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It looks like a trait that some are breeding for. I just uploaded this from Blue J iris, (they gave me permission last year to add their photos) the owners hybridized it
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Muddymitts
Mar 27, 2014 6:05 AM CST
Hmmmmm -- not sure how I feel about that.........
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grannysgarden
Mar 27, 2014 6:25 AM CST
Three standards and three falls will always be iris to me. I will not cull a brat that shows out but I would not buy an iris for this trait. Just me.
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Name: Lucy
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irisarian
Mar 27, 2014 6:41 AM CST
The development of extra flower parts has been linked to cold when the bud is developing as Kent says. I don't care for that as it usually means the plant is tender, a - in cold climates. Some of the TBs are a novelty genetic trait & are known as 'flatties'. 'Six Pack' is one which I can remember. Personally I wouldn't breed from the trait.
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Muddymitts
Mar 27, 2014 8:45 AM CST
Yah -- I don't care for the flatties at all either, Lucy. To me they look *sick* -- like they didn't have the strength for the petals to stand up.
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Calif_Sue
Mar 27, 2014 8:46 AM CST

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I agree Bonnie! I prefer this form:
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Paul2032
Mar 27, 2014 8:56 AM CST
Count me in for 3 nicely held standards and 3 wide flared falls. Love the symmetry...
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tveguy3
Mar 27, 2014 11:57 AM CST
I found the picture of my mutant iris.
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 27, 2014 1:00 PM CST
Thank you for the mutant pix. Quite incredable! We did have an extra period of prolonged dry/cold this winter but there are several clump of this particular iris and only one has this difference, The pictures i submited were awful colorwise. Must have had a filter on. Here is a beter one. Love 'Forward Thinking' and 'Pokeman' . Double everything would seen to me to be very very desirable. Then one I have seen was a spectacular but singular event. Thanks so much.
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