Orchids forum: Our Orchid blooms in April 2014

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Name: bree
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bree
Apr 19, 2014 2:23 AM CST
C. Caudebec x Ctn. Peggy Sam
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Apr 19, 2014 6:18 AM CST
I am so jealous of all your wonderful flowers. Nothing going on here right now except Phal./Dtps. blooming. I have several Catt. in sheath/bud, but no flowers yet. I saw one of my two large Vanda putting on a bud-laden stem. I am getting close!
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 19, 2014 6:57 AM CST

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Sounds promising Ken! Thumbs up Those silly Orchids can really teach us patience don't they? Smiling

Beautiful, Bree! Cattleya labiata is always one of my favorites! ( Sorry, I edited your labiata to reflect the species)

Yes, Melanie, they are related!
Some Cattleyas are now called Guarianthe and that is why the old Cattleytonia Why Not is now called a Guaritonia Why Not. (The Cattleya aurantiaca parent is now a Guarianthe aurantiaca.)
http://apps.rhs.org.uk/horticu...

I have trouble posting the link for this, but if you google:
[PDF] Guarianthe, a generic name for the “Cattleya” skinneri complex
you will get an article on the Cattleya/Guarianthe- renaming of some Cattleyas.

Thanks Tara Smiling
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Name: Jim Hawk
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hawkarica
Apr 19, 2014 7:06 AM CST
Melanie, I'm not Ursula but perhaps I can help. Grt. Why Not is (Gur. aurantiaca x Bro. sanguinea) and is the latest name for this orchid. Before, it was called Cattleytonia (Ctna.) Why Not so the two names are synonyms. The cross you have is not yet registered so keep using the parents' names.

Jim
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 19, 2014 7:21 AM CST

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Exactly!

I just looked at this PDF article a bit closer.
Molecular analysis was used to separate the "Guarianthe complex" from the Cattleya, ok no problem. But then one reads on and this comes up
Though Cattleya bowringiana is not placed within the C. skinneri alliance in the molecular analysis, there is also no bootstrap support to exclude it from the clade. We treat C. bowringiana as a member of Guarianthe because of the strong agreement in all structural features. Further analysis may falsify this conclusion, but, in the meantime, we may call C. bowringiana a Guarianthe.

Really? And now we lump others into that same complex because it LOOKS LIKE IT. What happened to the proper analytical results? Now I have a problem changing names…..
Name: Jim Hawk
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hawkarica
Apr 19, 2014 7:31 AM CST
I want all of my Schomburgkias back! Not to mention my Brassavolas!! Oh digbiana, where have you gone? Shrug!

Jim
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 19, 2014 7:46 AM CST

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Jim, my Schomburgkias never left…… Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing my Blc, Lc, Slc etc etc are still all happily here too!

edited to add - you know that quote I posted, really gets me! Working for years at a lab bench - one never ever ever dismisses data simply because they don't happened to fit the bigger picture at the moment. You report what you find and don't play around with the results.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Apr 19, 2014 8:12 AM CST
I won't go to the expense and time to change all my labels, and IF the grower labeled them Blc., Lc., Slc. Schom., and on and on, that's what the plant's label will show. However, I do try to remember to change the name on the label when I am either replacing the label because of a faded picture or just need more labels of a variety. I have hundreds of custom-made laminated labels.
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Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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hawkarica
Apr 19, 2014 8:26 AM CST
Beautiful Catts, Bree. The C. labiata is really special.

Jim
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Name: Melanie
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mellielong
Apr 19, 2014 8:33 AM CST
Wow! That got a little more scientific than I expected! But thanks for the explanations everyone. I just go with what's on the tags because I figure those people are the experts and I am just an enjoyer of orchids. And speaking of enjoying, my Grt. Why Not cross better bloom again soon! I love the bloom on it and it's been almost two years with no flowers. I know, patience is the name of the game with orchids...
Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Apr 19, 2014 9:29 AM CST
Phew, thanks for getting us back on the ground, Melanie. All that scientific talk was giving me a headache again!

As Ursula says, the plants are still the same no matter what the orchid boffins decide to call them today. You only need a "current name if you're going to show your plant, right?

It sounds to me like they are finding themselves in an ever-increasing spiral of new molecular structures to which they feel they must apply new names. Then they backtrack and say 'oh, we really can't do that, let's lump these in there with those until we have a better analysis . . . ' REeally!! Rolling my eyes.

I do love those little Tols, Ursula. It seems that almost all my little Tolumnias have bit the dust except two tiny fans on a couple of the lustier ones. I restrained myself at Lowe's yesterday where they had some in bloom for $8.95. If they're going to die off on me in 2 years, I should probably try something else. They did bloom last spring, but that was a much drier winter.

On the Max. tenuifolias, thank you. There are two plants in that basket, one in a clay pot with orchid bark and the other just sitting in the basket surrounded with loose sphagnum. One is blooming and the other has not bloomed for 2 years, take a guess which?? Yup, sphagnum does have its place . . . I hate to admit!
Elaine

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Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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hawkarica
Apr 19, 2014 1:35 PM CST
Truth is, I find the tags that come with the orchids I buy one of the least reliable sources of information. Poor penmanship, poor spelling, washed out tags and old information are a part of it.

Out in the OC, blooming just in time for Easter, is this Brassidium [Brsdm.] (syn. Maclellanara or Mclna.) Yellow Star. Geeze, how many different ways can you spell Brassia?
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I'm off to church in a little bit for the third night in a row. By this time tomorrow, I'll be totally hoarse. We are singing great music though so I feel good about it.

Jim

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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Apr 19, 2014 2:17 PM CST
Jim, basically all my orchids come form two growers on Maui. I order from their website. If they don't know what they are propagating and growing, Heaven help us.
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 19, 2014 3:22 PM CST

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Nice one Jim! And take care of that gorgeous voice of yours.
Name: Glen Ingram
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Gleni
Apr 19, 2014 5:00 PM CST
Names have very little to do with science. That is plain old bookkeeping or nomenclature - and unfortunately indispensable. Blinking
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Apr 20, 2014 6:55 AM CST

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Happy Easter from our permanent backyard resident!

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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Apr 20, 2014 7:56 AM CST
Oh such a cutey! Happy Easter to you too, Ursula, and to everyone here! Smiling
Name: Glen Ingram
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Gleni
Apr 20, 2014 8:02 AM CST
Lovely bunny. Raaaah. Happy Easter too from my stone-curlews.

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It is Easter Monday here but.

The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Apr 20, 2014 8:44 AM CST
Yes, Happy Easter, all. Glen your curlew is a really interesting bird, eyes of a hawk, legs of a wading bird. Beautiful!

Love the easter bunny, too, Ursula.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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Gleni
Apr 20, 2014 8:51 AM CST
Elaine, yes they are waders that live on dry land. Here is mum and dad and the kids behind.

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The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.

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