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Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week.              CDsSister May 10, 2014 9:54 AM CST |
| Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada This was a gift at the recent clinic in Oregon and I need to add it to my plant list. It was sold to gg5 by SMG and is on their web site as a "roller" http://www.smgsucculents.com/j... Pretty rosettes with pointed red-tipped leaves. and just the general info on the Jovibarba type plants. I will continue to research in order to fill in the rest of the fields. It is a really pretty little plant. Marilyn Smith aka CDsSister Please add it --- I asked Greg and he told me to go ahead and add it, but I don't know what to enter in the fields. |
Name: Suzanne/Sue Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a) Sunset Zone 15              |
That's @valleylynn's expertise area so we'll let her handle it.  |
Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week. CDsSister May 10, 2014 11:40 AM CST |
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Name: Lin Florida (Zone 9b)        plantladylin May 10, 2014 11:51 AM CST |
| @ValleyLynn is definitely the one who can help with this. "Rollers" is a common name and I think but (I'm not certain) that Jovibarba is a synonym for Sempivirvum? http://garden.org/plants/searc... ~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~ |
Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week. CDsSister May 10, 2014 12:14 PM CST |
| I know she is out and about today so will wait for her reply and will hope to learn how to do it myself. I did try but it said I had entered something wrong soo.... here I am. Can't get past first page. Thanks again  |
Name: Dave Whitinger Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)           |
Really, Lynn needs to handle this. I see it has one of those unusual "f/" species names so I don't think any of us want to touch it.  |
Name: Lin Florida (Zone 9b) plantladylin May 10, 2014 12:33 PM CST |
| I'm not certain if this will work but you might try the following: Primary Common Name: Rollers Accepted Botanical Name: Sempervivum hirta Cultivar: Sierra Nevada If that doesn't work Lynn will definitely be able to figure it out. ~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~ |
Name: Lin Florida (Zone 9b) plantladylin May 10, 2014 12:33 PM CST |
Ooops ... sorry.  Lynn will definitely be able to get it in the database correctly. ~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~ |
Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week. CDsSister May 10, 2014 12:50 PM CST |
I can wait till she is available ....Not a problem. I had thought I would contact her directly but then went ahead and posted. |
Name: Suzanne/Sue Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a) Sunset Zone 15 |
It didn't accept it as Jovibarba hirta is now a synonym, it's been reclassified as Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum Here is an entry so you can see what it looks like: Rollers (Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum 'from Biele Karpaty') You can see that 'Rollers' is used for the primary Common name. Trade name is for trademarked names so wouldn't apply here. |
Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week. CDsSister May 10, 2014 3:45 PM CST |
I'll try again ... Thanks Sue |
Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week. CDsSister May 10, 2014 3:50 PM CST |
It took it with just the genus as Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum and common name of Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada But did not give me a chance to add any other data. Guess we will still wait and see what the wandering @valleylynn has to say.  |
Name: Suzanne/Sue Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a) Sunset Zone 15 |
We'll let Lynn fix it. Rollers is supposed to be in the common name and the Jovibarba hirta gets added to the entry after it's created as a synonym. I think instead of the f/ she does the 'from Sierra Nevada' in the also sold as section so that it lines up correctly in the name. I don't even try to add those, they are trickier.  |
Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week. CDsSister May 10, 2014 4:01 PM CST |
No wonder the semp peeps are all confused. But am thankful for the experts who will fix us right up. Thanks for the advice. I was thinking anything with an asterisk was a mandatory field and tried to fill it all in |
Name: Suzanne/Sue Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a) Sunset Zone 15 |
| The asterisk just refers you to the note below "* An explanation of trade names and series names" |
Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week. CDsSister May 10, 2014 4:08 PM CST |
See what you get when you "assume"  |
Name: Suzanne/Sue Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a) Sunset Zone 15 |
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Name: Lynn Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)       valleylynn May 10, 2014 7:40 PM CST |
| Just got back home. This was sure a fun thread to read. Jovibarba hirta f/ Sierra Nevada would go in the the 'Also sold as:'. Common name is: Roller Botanical name is: Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum Cultivar name: f/ Sierra Nevada This is not an actual cultivar, it is a species that differs from other globiferum subsp. hirtum. It is the only way we could figure out how to list them. We used to do it this way: Sempervivum globiferum subsp. hirtum f/Sierra Nevada. This way still makes more sense to me.  Here it is all fixed. Can't wait to see your photos Marilyn.  Thank you for all the help Sue, Lin and Dave.  Had a wonderful time at Kevin Vaughns gathering of locals from the Iris Society. What a nice bunch of people. |
Name: Marilyn Greenwood Village, CO (Zone 5b) Garden today. Clean next week. CDsSister May 10, 2014 7:51 PM CST |
| This one sure was a tricky one for all concerned. I appreciate all the feedback. Everyone agreed. "Lynn will fix this" |
Name: Suzanne/Sue Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a) Sunset Zone 15 |
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