Plant Database forum: Generic entries in custom databases

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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 12, 2014 1:34 PM CST

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Our entry for Ricinus communis is called Castor Beans, with no indication of the Latin name.

Castor Beans (Ricinus communis)

A member asks why something is identified only by the common name, especially in view of the international status of our database. The page does come up in a search for Ricinus communis, but the common name "Castor Beans" was not familiar to the member, so it seemed confusing. Shouldn't there be some Latin identification of the plant on the generic page for that custom database?
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
May 12, 2014 1:46 PM CST

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We can do that, but it will require some workarounds (which I am very happy to do, of course.)

Reason being: for some parent plants, there are multiple latin names. I can't think of any examples off hand but I know they are there. Due to this, I can't tell it to print the latin name since there may be more than one. The question arises: which one do you print? So we have the parent plant simply named what we want it (like "Castor Beans") and leave it at that.

What we did with some of them is put the latin name right in the actual name of the parent plant, for example:

Australian Mallows (Alyogyne)

and

Grape Hyacinths (Muscari)

and

Cape Lilies (Nerine)

If we want to do that with more, I can easily add them on a plant-by-plant basis to the ones we desire.
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eclayne
May 12, 2014 1:48 PM CST

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zuzu said:Shouldn't there be some Latin identification of the plant on the generic page for that custom database?

Yes.

Edited: How about parent plants of a single genus, add the genus name when it differs from the parent plant name.

Edited again:
dave said:If we want to do that with more, I can easily add them on a plant-by-plant basis to the ones we desire.

Sounds good
Evan
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 12, 2014 2:06 PM CST

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In this case, communis is the only accepted species name in the Ricinus genus, so I think the Latin name should be added to the name of the parent plant.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
May 12, 2014 2:39 PM CST

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Well, maybe the right solution here is that,

1) if there's only one accepted latin name on a parent plant, then add it to its display name.

and

2) if there's more than one latin name, then just pick one?
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
May 12, 2014 2:53 PM CST

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I've made the change!
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zuzu
May 12, 2014 3:13 PM CST

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Thank you, Dave.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
May 12, 2014 3:18 PM CST

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I tip my hat to you.
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bonitin
May 13, 2014 12:01 AM CST
Thank You!

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