Plant ID forum: What is this perennial?

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ValleyBeeGirl
May 13, 2014 2:17 PM CST
I'm in zone 3. This plant flowers early summer, I believe! Bluish flowers....

It's been stuffed near a techny arborvite and needs to find a better home.

I'm presuming part shade but would like to know for sure!


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springcolor
May 13, 2014 2:37 PM CST
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I'm just guessing but would it look like these?http://garden.org/plants/group/platycodon/
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purpleinopp
May 13, 2014 2:42 PM CST
Looks like Platycodon to me too, looks a lot like asparagus when it starts emerging. Do the flowers look familiar? The buds are very distinct, inspiring the common name balloon flower. Probably would need full sun in Z3, that's where I put them in central OH, Z5.
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plantladylin
May 13, 2014 3:06 PM CST
My first thought was Asparagus Fern (Asparagus densiflorus 'Sprengeri') They are invasive here in my part of Florida and it's very hard to dig them out so the ones I can't get out I always cut back as far as possible to the ground and that photo looked a lot like when they re-sprout .... but when I enlarged and looked closer at your photo it does look more like emerging Balloon Flower - Platycodon: http://garden.org/plants/browse/plants/children/631151/ but as soon as you get a little more growth you should know for sure.
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Danita
May 13, 2014 3:24 PM CST
It also reminds me of Amsonia.
http://garden.org/search/index.php?q=amsonia&button=

ValleyBeeGirl
May 13, 2014 3:25 PM CST
Hmmm.... It might be the Astra Double Blue. The flowers are upright but clustered, I think/thought...

Thanks for your responses!

ValleyBeeGirl
May 13, 2014 3:29 PM CST
Well, indeed it does look like the amonsia, blue star blue ice!

However, that is zone 9 and flowers in fall. Mine flowers in summer and I'm zone 4.
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Danita
May 13, 2014 3:43 PM CST
Most Amsonia bloom in spring or early summer and are very hardy perennials. If you are reading about "good fall color" they are referring to the foliage which turns golden in many species in fall. Does it set long, skinny, gray seed pods in the late summer?
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ValleyBeeGirl
May 13, 2014 3:49 PM CST
I don't recall what the seeds like like but THANKS explaining that it is a perennial.

I do believe it is amonsia! So, sun or shade?
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Danita
May 13, 2014 4:04 PM CST
Generally, Amsonia will take full sun to part shade. Fall foliage color will be better with full sun. In hot areas, the flowers can last longer with some afternoon shade but intense heat and sun seems unlikely if you are in Zone 3. Too much shade can make the plants flop and sprawl. I don't know your specific conditions or area but it sounds like you are pretty far north so full sun to part sun might be best. Smiling
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Danita
May 13, 2014 4:32 PM CST
Oh, a note about transplanting...
Amsonias have a deep, woody root system and can be hard to transplant. Even though it is a perennial, treat it like you were moving a shrub and be prepared to dig a large and deep root ball.
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Leftwood
May 14, 2014 9:29 AM CST
I have to say, that even the dry stalks look like platycodon, but I think platycodon is unlikely. The crown in this genus is well below the surface of the soil, which means that sprouts, when they reach the surface, are vertical, not spreading.

Platycodon grandiflorus Hakone White
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ValleyBeeGirl
May 14, 2014 3:47 PM CST
Thanks for helping identify it as an Amsonia.

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