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Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 12, 2014 7:42 PM CST
Well, as of yesterday morning, I have not been able to open it either. I suspect they may be making some corrections. We can find out other ways but here is what I do know. The original five developed and named by Dr. Griesbach after his five Granddaughters were: Pearl Stacie (meant to be Pearl Gracie), Pearl Justine (also called Pearl Justien), Pearl Jennifer, Pearl Carolina (meant to be Caroline) and Pearl Jessica. These are the original five that were selected by Peter Groot of Holland. I am of the understanding that all further development work on the Pearl series has been done in Holland. There are now at least two more that been added to the Pearl series: Pearl Lorraine and Pearl Melanie. They are currently propagated and marketed by Hyde.

Confusing Note: The Lily Nook lists the hybridizer of Pearl Melanie as (Griesbach). I believe this to be an accidental error/oversight.

Seems to me there was a very comprehensive write up on the Pearl series in the not to distant past somewhere but I draw a blank on that right now.

I'll send Richard Hyde a note tonight and hopefully he can fill the blank spaces in a hurry.

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dellac
Jun 12, 2014 7:59 PM CST
Thank You!
Name: Joe
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Joebass
Jun 12, 2014 8:00 PM CST
Lorn's always on top of it. I was gonna say that the lily nook has Griesbach as the hybridizer but I see it may be wrong.
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jun 12, 2014 8:13 PM CST

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Hyde doesn't seem to separate Melanie out from the others Confused .

http://www.hwhyde.co.uk/lilies...
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jun 12, 2014 8:15 PM CST

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Well anyway, whatever.... now I'm looking around to see what pollen I have to smack on it, or vise versa... Hilarious!
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 12, 2014 9:09 PM CST
And, they also say under Pearl Stacey that it is part of a 'group of six'. Well, there were 'six', that Peter Groot selected, but 'number six' was an O/T named Dr. Griesbach, after himself.

http://www.hwhyde.co.uk/lilies...

Let's see what kind of message I wake up to in the morning. I think it's 4 AM over there now.


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pardalinum
Jun 12, 2014 9:12 PM CST

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Thanks for sleuthing, Lorn.

On another note, there is nothing like a big gob of Tiger Babies:

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Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 12, 2014 9:37 PM CST
Geez--another great lily! Smiling You've got to find a place for Seafarer too. Judith certainly developed some really garden hardy lilies that are just absolutely beautiful.
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Jun 12, 2014 10:50 PM CST
Pearl Justine hit my mailbox today..Also,Pearl Jennifer...... and 'my word' Pink Brilliant...Hmmmmmmm Whistling should I?
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jmorth
Jun 13, 2014 1:05 AM CST
I've had 10 more lilies bloom since my last post, however, the pics just don't make the cut. I'll try for some good ones tomorrow.

Since like 6-7-14 the following have started blooming: Tiny Orange Sensation, Tiny Sensation, Lollipop, Forever Susan, Tiny Padhye, Good Night, Tiger Play, Tiny Icon, Lilium regale, and Green Goddess.
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Heart2Heart
Jun 13, 2014 5:39 AM CST
here the first blooming trumped-seedling ...


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Jun 13, 2014 7:06 AM CST
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TennesseeDave
Jun 13, 2014 5:18 PM CST
Just a couple of shots from today. Sorry about the insect in the center of that beautiful yellow. Mother nature you know.

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Jun 13, 2014 6:55 PM CST
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jmorth
Jun 13, 2014 9:03 PM CST
From the front (pots) - Tiny Sensation, Tiny Orange Sensation, Tiny Toes, and Tiny Padhye
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Tiny Icon
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Lollipop
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Forever Susan


Sweet Lord
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Tiny Padhye
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L. regale
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Tiny Toes and Sweet Lord are new today. Still missing - Tiger Play, Good Night, and Green Goddess

Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jun 14, 2014 5:58 AM CST
Roosterlorn said:Well, as of yesterday morning, I have not been able to open it either. I suspect they may be making some corrections. We can find out other ways but here is what I do know. The original five developed and named by Dr. Griesbach after his five Granddaughters were: Pearl Stacie (meant to be Pearl Gracie), Pearl Justine (also called Pearl Justien), Pearl Jennifer, Pearl Carolina (meant to be Caroline) and Pearl Jessica. These are the original five that were selected by Peter Groot of Holland. I am of the understanding that all further development work on the Pearl series has been done in Holland. There are now at least two more that been added to the Pearl series: Pearl Lorraine and Pearl Melanie. They are currently propagated and marketed by Hyde.

Confusing Note: The Lily Nook lists the hybridizer of Pearl Melanie as (Griesbach). I believe this to be an accidental error/oversight.

Seems to me there was a very comprehensive write up on the Pearl series in the not to distant past somewhere but I draw a blank on that right

I'll send Richard Hyde a note tonight and hopefully he can fill the blank spaces in a hurry.



UPDATE JUNE 14TH, 20014: Richard Hyde informed me that both Pearl Melanie and Pearl Loraine (one 'r') were Registered by 'THE LILY COMPANY' in Holland. As far as he knows, Dr. Griesback did not approve the names. They have Pearl Melanie listed as 'new'.

Other bits and pieces from my scrapbook: Peter Groot, who selected the original five Pearls from Dr. Griesbach, sold his Nursery to THE LILY COMPANY in 2009. You can Learn more about THE LILY COMPANY here: http://www.lilycompany.nl/en An interesting letter I had copied from THE SUBURBAN GARDENER from Dr. Griesbach addressed to a person named Lily. I believe this is Lily Gardner, one of our forum members. here. And, ( I just couldn't resist), an old photo I have of Hublein that just caught my eye, the high flyin' jet setter who broke the old Oregon Bulb Farm.



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Jun 14, 2014 10:12 AM CST
@jmorth Outstanding!
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piksihk
Jun 14, 2014 11:01 AM CST
Here's my mixed tigers blooming:
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lovemyhouse
Jun 14, 2014 11:15 AM CST
Beautiful flowers, everyone. Smiling

Not quite, but soon, I think.
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Name: della
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dellac
Jun 14, 2014 8:12 PM CST
Tiger Babies and Tiny Padhye Lovey dubby

So Lorn, it sounds like Melanie is from Griesbach genetics - either bred directly by Griesbach but not selected by Peter at the time of the original 5 or maybe hybridised by Peter Groot from Griesbach stock before he sold to The Lily Company... or by The Lily Company after they acquired the breeding stock from Peter? Though I guess either nursery could have had their own tetraploid stock in parallel with the Griesbach stock, not necessairly interbred. Thanks for digging all that up.

I notice Hublien has had his arm torn off - did the lilies fight back? Hilarious!

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