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Name: Michele
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tink3472
Jun 3, 2014 4:44 PM CST
chalyse said: I'm glad to hear, also, that you don't bother to track the first winter


First year if they bloom at 7-9 months I will look at the plant and see if I want to keep it another year. Hopefully it will rebloom and I will get an idea of the scape and such but if not then if I like the bloom enough and it sets pods I will keep it another year. So many do get composted the first year if they don't do anything special around here and we may end up throwing out some good ones but we just don't have enough room to keep too many seedlings for 2 years. I did keep a bunch from last year that did not bloom but that was because I didn't have that many bloom to begin with. It seems that something always comes up and when it is transplanting time I seem to be so far behind and don't get things planted by our deadline to get first year blooms.

Kim and I try and limit the number of seeds we plant to about 1500 - 2000 together but with 3 of us hybridizing here and the garden owner doing probably 2000-3000 himself we just do not have room for many 2nd year unbloomed seedlings.

So if they make it past the first year then we watch and see what they will do.
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Hemlady
Jun 3, 2014 5:46 PM CST
Wow, the color on that Rose F. Kennedy seedling really pops.
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mistyfog
Jun 3, 2014 9:59 PM CST
Lovely flowers everyone.

The below zero temps during the past winter, and the spring freeze did a number on
the plants that wintered here, except for the new fall planted ones that were protected.

I think the cold temps damaged the scape and bloom development as we have
scapes about 3 in tall with undersized buds in the 2 year old seedling beds, and one
established plant had two blooms that were deformed. Very disappointing. Grumbling
The foliage on these plants did very well, so it seems only the scapes and buds
are affected.

However, I hope the rebloom scapes to come won't be affected, but at this
point I just don't know. It was a harsh winter in so many locations.

On the plants that wintered here, only 4 have bloomed if I could call them blooms.
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Name: Tina
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chalyse
Jun 3, 2014 10:07 PM CST
I was just reading your last year's account of daylily seedling blooms, Shirlee. Sorry to hear about the loss of a normal set of first-round scapes ... I'll be waiting to hear and see what comes with your rebloom, though. Any chance your new fall seedlings from 2013 will flower this summer, too? I can imagine that each year's starts have all sorts of new hopes and goals wrapped up into them, so I'm looking forward to hearing about it all.
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spunky1
Jun 4, 2014 5:07 AM CST
I really do need Kim over here next year!!
Great start Tina, I don't think the second one would be a uf, but still a nice flower.

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Michele, I think Spunky has some...
Thank you Miss Betty(*&^) I still like your YELLOW FANG

After another two inch's of rain some of the color may have been washed out
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Name: Tina
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chalyse
Jun 4, 2014 5:46 AM CST
Quite a nice range of colors even after the deluge of rain. Thanks, Fred, for your nudge about UF - made me go look and see the detailed definitions for each of them, and now I can see that the second seedling does not fit. I also tried to find a very distant UF relative to compare with:



That helped me to see that the seedling's petals do not taper in the very marked way a UF would, nor does it have the cascading curl or quilling like different photos of Sisters in Pink show. I learned that these unusual forms evolved from the spider category since longer petals and sepals would allow for the extra curling and pinching - the reliable features that appear in UFs. Learning a lot from all of you! Thumbs up
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Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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tink3472
Jun 4, 2014 5:51 AM CST
If it keeps raining over here Kim will have to swim to your house @spunky1. Yep that rain is killing us over here. If it were a light, steady rain it would be ok but it is hard rains. I live on a dirt road (like Fred) and it is on a downward slope because when it rains all the water rushes down to our end (we are at the very end) and it literally looks like a rushing river in our driveway. The rest of the yard that is level is nothing but standing water because it can't soak in. The county would pave it but everyone who lives on this road has to sign a paper saying ok and there is one person who will not sign the paper. His property is actually further back than ours and it borders this road and the next road over so both roads can't get paved because of him Thumbs down

Oh well, nothing can be done.
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Name: Tina
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chalyse
Jun 4, 2014 6:00 AM CST
Yikes, that sounds like misery! Is there any way to put drainage piping (the kind with the holes along the surface) in to divert the runoff from streaming into your place? We used to do that back in IL where the soil was very much clay and houses were often built at the bottom of a small hill. I know, though, that it can be hard or impossible to find a diverting path that doesn't just end up pooling back where it would have run anyway. Hmmm, maybe a nice draining system that delivers the excess to that one neighbor's land ... Blinking
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Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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tink3472
Jun 4, 2014 7:10 AM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing he gets plenty of it too. He has big piles of clay (that's what they dump on the road for us) where it washes to his yard. He'll get out there on his tractor and push all up nicely once in awhile.

If it were my place I would try and redirect the water somehow or have our driveway asphalted or concreted (is that a word Shrug! ) but elevated up so the water would go elsewhere. But since it's not our place (we are renting) we can't do anything about it.
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Name: Alex
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ARoseblush
Jun 4, 2014 8:34 AM CST
Michele, here in the mountains we use the French Drainage plastic piping to redirect water away from our houses and property or places we don't want the water to build up. Easy and effective.

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Name: Tina
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chalyse
Jun 4, 2014 10:04 AM CST
Where's the icon for tearing hair out! LOL Renting does put a damper on getting drainage (but, yeah, Alex, that's the stuff I meant) ... Maybe a big ole sump pump with a very long hose that empties into that neighbor's living room. Rolling on the floor laughing

Well, wishing you guys some drier days soon, so we can seem more seedlings! *cue sunshine!*
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Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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tink3472
Jun 4, 2014 3:29 PM CST
Got to the garden late today and it was already sweltering at 8:45 am so not many photos since I needed to get the pollinating done. It was only about 80° but with the humidity it felt like it was in the 90s

Here are 3 of Kim's I absolutely loved today

WILD DREAMS x ROSE F KENNEDY siblings
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I've posted this one before but I just love how it curls
LILLIAN'S VAPOR TRAIL x OOPS ANOTHER MIRACLE
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
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Hemlady
Jun 4, 2014 3:50 PM CST
Gorgeous seedlings!!!
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JWWC
Jun 4, 2014 4:16 PM CST
I agree Hurray!
Name: Alex
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ARoseblush
Jun 4, 2014 4:41 PM CST
Michele....Just love Kim's 1st seedling from 'WILD DREAMS x ROSE F KENNEDY' . Drooling Lovely pastel w/ huge green throat. Is it diamond dusted or is that just moisture on the petals?
Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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tink3472
Jun 4, 2014 6:58 PM CST
ARoseblush said:Michele....Just love Kim's 1st seedling from 'WILD DREAMS x ROSE F KENNEDY' . Drooling Lovely pastel w/ huge green throat. Is it diamond dusted or is that just moisture on the petals?


just moisture on the petals
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jun 4, 2014 7:06 PM CST
I am so envious of all the patterned and ruffled blooming seedlings! Stunning!!!!

A few new ones in my garden. I am now up to 61 blooming first (or second) year seedlings. Some are second year plants that did indeed bloom last year, but most are blooming for the first time this year. I still have probably close to 100 daylilies that haven't bloomed yet ... but should this season. I sure have a lot of red shaded bloomers (though I am not showing photos of them). Most are children of either Roses in Snow or Mama's Cherry Pie.

One of my few "patterned" blooming daylilies. This is in the full sun all-day-long raised bed. You can see the rust on most of the foliage in the background. This is in stark contrast to my partially shaded raised beds where the foliage looks so healthy and green. :

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Another bloom that looks like it has a slight pattern. This daylily is in the partial-shade raised bed. Foliage looks so much healthier. :

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This one also looks like it has a slight pattern. Also in the partial-shade bed.:

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Finally a ruffled one dressed in dark red!:

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This is one of my favorites that I divided in late Winter. I now have two fans of this one growing and blooming! I am so in love with the colors of these blooms! Sunset colors!

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This one reminds me of ditchlilies. It has been blooming like crazy!:

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One of the few orange bloomers that I have that has been producing lots of blooms!:

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A mauve colored beauty! This one is so elegant! I don't have many pinks, but this one is a keeper!:

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And last is the little two-toned cutie!:

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Most of these are being grown in the partial shade beds and genuinely look so much better than those planted in full sun! A neighbor saw one of my dark red blooming daylilies in the border in the front yard. She thought the bloom was black because it displays so dark! She couldn't believe it was red until she got closer to examine it. Hilarious!

Photo 2 and 8 I suspect are sibling seedlings.
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Name: Tina
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chalyse
Jun 4, 2014 7:34 PM CST
@beckygardener those seedlings me me drool - I adore the stunning eyes in 2 and 8, and for me that is more desirable than any other accessory. Do you know the parents (don't mean to be nosy, so no pressure, just asking)?
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Name: Glen Ingram
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Gleni
Jun 4, 2014 7:34 PM CST
WILD DREAMS x ROSE F KENNEDY siblings. Is it really that beautiful, Tink?
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jun 4, 2014 7:43 PM CST
Tina - Thank you! (And to those who gave my blooms a thumbs-up!) They aren't that fancy, but I still think they are quite pleasing to the eye! Unfortunately, I do not know the parentage of any of these. The seeds were either shared with me (the tags were destroyed or removed by squirrels, raccoons, or other critter) or I purchased the seeds with no parentage listed.

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