Plumeria forum: A couple of questions about plumerias...

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Bend, Oregon
mmyers316
Jun 16, 2014 10:57 AM CST
I am interested in purchasing the Donald Angus Red plumeria and the Kauka Wilder plumeria cuttings. I will be potting them indoors (Bend, OR) and have temperatures about 70 to 80 degrees. I have read that some plumerias get more vibrant in hotter weather. Is there a chance that these two plumerias will not be as bright and vibrant here? Will they be pale pink?

Also, I am interested in either the Singapore or Celadine. What would you suggest? Does one smell better than the other or is one hardier than the other?

Thank you!
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drdawg
Jun 16, 2014 12:53 PM CST
Are you actually going to be growing your plumeria indoors?

I don't know about the Singapore, but my Celadine has what is considered the "classic" plumeria fragrance. A major grower in Maui told me that all plumeria fragrances are judged against the Celadine. My Celadine roots up the fastest, leafs out the quickest, and makes a superb graft stock. It is also one of my best bloomers. I don't know about being more hardy though. I force all my plumeria into dormancy in the fall and they will stay dormant, without light, soil, or water until spring. As far as I know, none of them will take heavy frosts/hard freezes, whether potted up or in the ground.
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Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Jun 16, 2014 1:45 PM CST

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Your colors will definitely be compromised. They need a bright sun to get perfect color. For comparison I will show two pictures of the same cultivar (Mardi Gras); one taken after some cloudy days and one in the summer heat. They will illustrate the point.

Singapore can be fussy in colder weather so I would recommend Celadine.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Jun 16, 2014 2:18 PM CST
When the "potting them indoors" was preceded by "cuttings", I wasn't sure whether they would be rooted indoors (only) or grown indoors after rooting. Hetty, unless those cuttings already have a flower stalk(s), will plumeria bloom indoors, without greenhouse lighting and conditions, particularly in OR?
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Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Jun 16, 2014 2:27 PM CST

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They certainly can bloom; I grew and bloomed them in England, but you'll never get a great color as I illustrated above.
Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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drdawg
Jun 16, 2014 3:05 PM CST
Live and learn. I just thought since they love heat and direct sun, and are trees, they needed super-bright light and warmth to bloom. Thanks, Hetty.

P. S. I will keep mine outdoors just the same, at least until October. Whistling
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Bend, Oregon
mmyers316
Jun 16, 2014 3:30 PM CST
Thanks so much for your replies everyone. They will primarily be potted and kept indoors except in the summer where I will keep them in the sun outside when it is warm enough. I have a Nebel's Rainbow and it has done great so far and I have my first inflow on it.

I think I am leaning towards getting a Celadine. Thanks again!
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Jun 16, 2014 6:04 PM CST

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