Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: ID a nice plant given to me

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Stush2019
Jul 9, 2014 5:34 PM CST
Mark aka a2b1c3 gave me a box of plants earier and one really caught my eye. I beleive it some sort of Sedum. Looks like some of my Jades. I would like to know how cold hardy it is and what's it's name.

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It's small but started to grow faster now. It is fully rooted.
Thanks again Mark.
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Nlb59
Jul 10, 2014 6:56 PM CST
looks like jade plant to me .
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Cinta
Jul 10, 2014 7:19 PM CST
The little piece sticking out from the bottom makes me think it might be jade gollum plant. Google pics and see what you think.
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SongofJoy
Jul 11, 2014 5:27 AM CST
It appears to be a Crassula.
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tarev
Jul 11, 2014 9:42 AM CST
I think it is Crassula ovata 'Gollum' though usually the leaves are more tubular with reddish tips.

I did see this page, where it shows some similar combined shaped leaves..maybe your plant was just affected by some changes in its environment so the first few leaves did not do right away its tubular-like leaves.

http://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/CRASSULA/Crassula_cultivar/...
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Cinta
Jul 11, 2014 12:46 PM CST
[quote="tarev"]I think it is Crassula ovata 'Gollum' though usually the leaves are more tubular with reddish tips.

I did see this page, where it shows some similar combined shaped leaves..maybe your plant was just affected by some changes in its environment so the first few leaves did not do right away its tubular-like leaves.

]http://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/CRASSULA/Crassula_cultivar/...

Trav I think it is a gollum too. There are a couple of Gollums that have different looks I cannot remember the names of all them. But looking at Stush pic there is one little finger at the bottom with the red tip and a leaf that looks like gollum.
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tarev
Jul 11, 2014 1:13 PM CST
I had to look outside too at my C. ovata 'Gollum'...almost all are tubular leaves..there are just a few here and there with the usual jade like leaves.

I also have a cutting from mother gollum plant and I guess I may have overwatered the little one a bit lately, some leaves are not so tubular either, no red tips yet, deep green in color since this one is in a shadier area. So maybe that is how the plant reacts at times, when it grew in a shady spot and got more water than usual, not all leaves will go tubular.
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Cinta
Jul 11, 2014 3:27 PM CST
This is what I was talking about the different Gollums out there.

http://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/CRASSULA/Crassula_cultivar/...

Crassula ovata cultivars:

Crassula ovata 'Convoluta Gollum' = 'Gollum'
Crassula ovata 'Convoluta Hobbit' = 'Hobbit'
Crassula ovata 'Coral' or 'Coralle' = 'Gollum' or similar mutation (Form with leaves fushed into coral-like tubes, apices truncate)
Crassula ovata 'Dwarf Hobbit' (A listed name. There are both smaller and larger variants of 'Gollum' and 'Hobbit', some not very distinct indeed.)
Crassula ovata 'Finger Jade' = 'Gollum' (A listed name. It should be noted that 'Lady Fingers' is a very distinct clone from 'Gollum'. )
Crassula ovata 'Gandalff' (Form with fused leaf, the name being a takeoff on 'Hobbit' . Distinctions not yet reported.)
Crassula ovata 'Giant Gollum' ='Green Giant Coral' (As 'Gollum' but larger overall)
Crassula ovata 'Gollum' ['Golumn', 'Convulata Gollum', C. x portulacea f. monstrosa] ( Leaves rolled into a tube, usually with one part protecting longer than the other margin. Tips reddish in light. It has nearly 100% tubular leaves and not the number of flat, spoon-shaped and irregular blades - incomplete tubes - of 'Hobbit'. )
Crassula ovata 'Green Giant Coral' = 'Giant Gollum'
Crassula ovata 'Hobbit' (With leaves twisted, rolled inward but not tubular as 'Gollum'. It has many spoon-shaped, shovel-shaped and wide open tubes that some have compared to a pita sandwich or gyros)
Crassula ovata 'Horn Tree' (A listed name for a fused-leaf plant listed separately from 'Gollum'. Perhaps just a name for large stock of a similar type.)
Crassula ovata 'Lady Fingers' (With leaves fused into tubes as 'Gollum' but tubes distinctly narrower, longer, and more upright. It is a more elegant plant from photos.)
Crassula ovata 'Sea Coral' = 'Gollum'
Crassula x portulacea 'Baby Jade'[C. ovata x C. lactea] (It is smaller than C. ovata on average, eventuall a small woody shrub, leaves smaller than C. ovata all green. this name is for the typical clone(s) of the trade. Not all species hybrids will be the same)
Crassula x portulacea f. monstrosa = C. ovata 'Gollum'
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Name: 'CareBear'

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Stush2019
Jul 11, 2014 7:44 PM CST
I know it looks like some of my jades but it was growing outside at Marks place and I know some plants look alike. It grows faster than any of my jades. As soon as I noticed it and planted it on it's own, it doupled it's size. Some thing my jades never do. And that tubular leaf at the bottom was the first leaf that cought my eye. Maybe next month when a little bigger may tell or if it would go in bloom.
Thank you all for the ideas. So far it is what I was thinking.
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tarev
Jul 11, 2014 8:00 PM CST
Yes, it is active growing season for the Crassulas during summer. They can drink a lot of water and easily fatten up their stems at this time as it makes more leaves too.
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Stush2019
Jul 16, 2014 5:37 PM CST
Just another picture of unknow Jade or what ever.
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Note the strange markings on bottoms of leaf. Upper most new leaves look like froming tubes like the Hobbit or Gollum Jades. So far I think it is a hybrid or just a unknow sedum.
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tarev
Jul 16, 2014 6:06 PM CST
It looks like your Crassula ovata 'Hobbit' Smiling


Name: 'CareBear'

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Stush2019
Jul 17, 2014 12:20 PM CST
Tarev,
Just as everyone else has said. Thank you. I am confused as to how it was growing with hardy sedum mix. Good thing I removed it and planted it up on it's own. It is different than my store bought Hobbit or my Gollum but it is a young seedling. Do any one know what the coldest temp. these guys can take?
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tarev
Jul 17, 2014 1:46 PM CST
My Crassula ovatas has endured 20F as long as it does not get rained on too much, and making sure media is very porous, and container with drainage. But you can just see how stressed the entire plant is..poor thing. But to play it really safe, I would use 35F as utmost lowest, and position the plant away from direct blowing cold air. That was one of my mistakes before I think...my plant is with really porous soil and good drainage, but I underestimated the blowing cold air with rain. Moving it beside my house helped a lot, and they thrived quite fast when more tolerable cold temps of 50F returned in winter.

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Stush2019
Jul 17, 2014 1:54 PM CST
Thank you Tarve,
So I plan to winter it in my very cold basement. It might hit a low of 30 but only a short time. My agaves seem not to mind.
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tarev
Jul 17, 2014 2:08 PM CST
That should work then, just cold, it will endure..and with some good light Smiling

Plantomaniac08
Jul 18, 2014 8:13 AM CST
Just remember to keep it dry!

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