Daylilies forum: Opinin about Charlie

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Frillylily
Jul 12, 2014 12:14 PM CST
I'm wondering if Charlie has a good bud count? I looked at the database but it doesn't say. Does anyone have an opinion on this one? Is it a good grower?
Name: John
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farawayfarmer
Jul 12, 2014 1:18 PM CST
I don't know that one, and it's a dormant variety, and I don't do dormants.

Personally, here in central Florida, I think near-continuous rebloom is more important than bud count. I mean, who cares if there are 30 or even 20 buds, when there'll be another scape coming--often before the old scape stops blooming.

John
Name: Char
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Char
Jul 12, 2014 3:02 PM CST

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farawayfarmer said: I mean, who cares if there are 30 or even 20 buds,


That would be those of us in the middle of the country and the north who do grow dormants..... Smiling

I did see Charlie growing in a garden in Ct. two or three years ago, but it was a fairly new planting and I don't remember noticing the branching or budcount, the bloom was beautiful with the Reckamp glow that line is known for . A few members have posted images to the database, I hope one of them will be able to answer to your question.
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Frillylily
Jul 12, 2014 3:18 PM CST
farawayfarmer said:I don't know that one, and it's a dormant variety, and I don't do dormants.

Personally, here in central Florida, I think near-continuous rebloom is more important than bud count. I mean, who cares if there are 30 or even 20 buds, when there'll be another scape coming--often before the old scape stops blooming.



It often freezes here before those rebloom scapes get to bloom, or the mornings are getting cool and the blooms don't open well. I've seen some that seem like they have tons of buds that open all at once, seems like even though they bloom in quantity, it may be one big explosion lol and then over. Nice to have them bloom a few at a time over a longer period. New scapes are nice to see if it is still early in the season, but not the fall rebloom particularly. Same is true of rebloom iris for me, they just usually get froze.
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Hemlady
Jul 12, 2014 5:10 PM CST
Same here. We don't get much rebloom here at all. I have, maybe, 5 daylilies out of 300 that will rebloom for me even though the majority are listed as rebloomers. Our growing season just isn't long enough or warm enough I guess.
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Seedfork
Jul 12, 2014 5:21 PM CST
Frillylily,
That is an excellent point which I have not seen mentioned that often. Yes, lots of buds are nice, but they do need to also have an extended period over which they open. I just posted a comment on my photo of 'My Path' the clump has been blooming over a month now. I have other daylilies with lots of buds, but in just a few days the show was over with them. I was just thinking while writing this post, I don't actually remember removing scapes from this clump this year, but I won't swear that I haven't. To me it seems this daylily just keeps producing buds on the same scapes, I need to pay more attention. Is that even possible?
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Hemlady
Jul 13, 2014 4:17 AM CST
It could be a bud builder. That is very possible.
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Seedfork
Jul 13, 2014 7:28 AM CST
Then I need to start looking for more bud builders!
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EdBurton
Jul 20, 2014 12:36 AM CST
I grow Charlie, and I wouldn't recommend it to anybody, poor bloomer, low bud count, not worth the effort for me, there are a lot better performing Reckamp/Klehm than Charlie



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springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
Jul 20, 2014 10:17 AM CST
ok,Thanks! I love their dl but Charlie just seems to sit there for me.
Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Jul 20, 2014 10:23 AM CST
Sounds like some good info to add to the comments section in the data base.
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Frillylily
Jul 20, 2014 11:33 AM CST
Yes! I wish more of the entries had comments. Especially on bud count.
Name: Debra
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shive1
Jul 20, 2014 2:03 PM CST
Charlie is one I will always grow. It blooms very late in the season for me - not midseason like it is registered. It usually has 15-18 buds for me and performs better here than most Reckamps I grow.


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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Jul 20, 2014 2:08 PM CST
Very interesting, I hope 'Charlie' growers will continue to add comments and also post them to the data base. I would love to see discussions like this on a lot of different cultivars, which ones grow well for you, how many buds, how long did the plant bloom, etc.

shive1,
Do those 15 to 18 buds tend to open all at once or do they spread out the opening two or three buds at a time?
Name: Debra
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shive1
Jul 20, 2014 4:06 PM CST
Seedfork - Each scape usually has one to two blooms open per day. It has been a slow multiplier for me, but I'm growing it in part shade.

Debra

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