Thanks for re-posting the images, Cindy.
Here is one seedling, which had maiden bloom this summer, from a "radical" cross of mine. It is the offspring of a lavender/orchid seedling of mine of uncertain heritage (long story there) with a nasty tendency to "tongue", and in which the petals tend to be slightly chalice shaped. (I keep it though because of the color and fragrance, and because it once had an instant rebloom.)
This seedling was pollinated by 'Osterized', which I was hoping would help it to open flatter, and would fix the tonguing. I knew that the resulting color would be muddy, and two other seedlings from the cross were hideously muddy orange things (the other seedlings did not bloom), but this one seedling (though also muddy) wasn't too bad.
(image was on a "good hair" day, though there is a hint of tonguing on the 2 o'clock petal) by 'Osterized'
The "good" offspring