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Aug 1, 2014 2:32 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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Get your bugs identified here. If you have a pest problem you want advice for, though, the preferred forum is the Pests and Diseases forum.
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Sep 8, 2014 11:43 PM CST
Name: Julie
Eugene, OR (Zone 8b)
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What is this, please?
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Sep 9, 2014 5:32 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Difficult to say for sure, if you can make a closer crop it would help.

From what I can see it looks like a type of snail, probably a young one or small species. The bottom part looks confusing, and the top of it looks clear so it could have been parasitized b a snail-killing fly.
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Sep 9, 2014 11:27 PM CST
Name: Julie
Eugene, OR (Zone 8b)
Thank you, JR's...
but that photo IS super zoomed. It is on the underside of a cordyline leaf. Im not sure how they get around, but sometimes there seems to be a whole fleet of those things in sight.
It is very small - like the beaded head of a pin. Smaller than a ladybug.
Any other ideas?????
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Sep 10, 2014 4:48 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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It still looks like a snail of some sort, at this time of year you will get baby snails not long hatched from an egg which are not much bigger than a beaded pin head, smaller species would probably be about the same size. I have seen some lately underneath leaves.

There's a photo of a newly hatched snail on this link, they even mention the size as the head of a dressmaker's pin!

http://beyondthehumaneye.blogs...

I cropped the photo and blew it up, it still looks odd but a newly hatched mollusc wouldn't look normal.

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Sep 10, 2014 5:31 PM CST
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I agree Looks like a baby snail to me too.
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Sep 10, 2014 6:08 PM CST
Name: Julie
Eugene, OR (Zone 8b)
Wow - great job on the picture!! Smiling Thanx!
Now it looks like some kind of snail to me, too...I guess I couldn't see it as well as I thought with my own eyes!! lol And didn't have snails in mind on the 2nd story balcony - though I don't know why not. They get everywhere!
OK, so where do they hide the rest of the time? In the plant soil? Because I can't find them anywhere now. I appreciate your help, JR. Your's too fla...
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Sep 10, 2014 6:22 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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Snails will hide under the edges of plant pots, or under a widow ledge, anywhere they can attach themselves to. They will lay their eggs in plant pots in the soil, or under suitable places if they can get there and as long as it keeps damp.

It's possible the adult snail went up the wall, laid eggs, then returned to the ground, they do climb walls.
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Jun 13, 2021 6:39 PM CST
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
There are a zillion of these moths flying around the garden, on the decks and inside the porches.
I don't remember seeing them before. I don't know if they are harmful to plants or benign.
Any thoughts on the possible threat level or an ID
Thank You Very Much in Advance

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Jun 14, 2021 2:58 PM CST
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
I thought I only had one type. I took these photos on the porch. These moths cluster around the flower garden, gaillardia, desert marigold and black eye susan. There is a large mexican bird of paradise blooming in that area.
These may be butterflies and I have a butterfly garden but then again, maybe pests.

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Jun 14, 2021 3:17 PM CST
Name: Sue
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I think they are possibly both moths in the Noctuidae family. The second one looks like the top right on this page of Catocalinae moths but I haven't found an actual ID yet:

http://www.theearlybirder.com/...

The moths themselves are not likely doing any harm to your plants, they may just be looking for nectar in the flowers. Their caterpillars may be damaging to plants though, often they are called cutworms or armyworms

There are a lot of species in the Noctuidae!
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Jun 14, 2021 4:10 PM CST
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
Those are exactly what my moths look like. Now I know.
We did not have the huge clouds of these moths last year so I will pay extra attention to protecting any valuable plants. I expect there will be heavy infestations of Plant Eaters in the future.
If it isn't' one thing eating my plants, it is another thing. Isn't gardening fun?
Thanks for the information.
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