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Aug 19, 2014 12:16 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Thanks to @daylily and @dave a new tool has been created that will be very helpful to those wanting to further study the characteristics passed on to seedlings from the parent plants.
We already had the 'Child plants' feature, but you had to click on each one of the child plants to see a photo. Daylily requested having a thumbnail for each listing, that way you would be able to see a photo comparison of each on the list page. Before you could blink an eye Dave created the new feature. Hurray!

Have fun playing with it. @JungleShadows you will find this to be an interesting tool.
Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Killer')
Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Jungle Shadows')
Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Marietta')

And many more to check out. Very interesting to see the results. I wish we had a photo of 'Marietta'.
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Aug 19, 2014 12:42 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Lynn @valleylynn , did you mean tool for 'Hybridizers'? or is hybrizers something else?
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Aug 19, 2014 12:45 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Thank you Bev. I think some of my fingers have gone on strike. Whistling
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Aug 19, 2014 2:41 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
and I obviously have too much time on my hands while the specter of my 8th grade English teacher is sitting on my shoulder every time I make grammatical errors in my typing of posts... Glare
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Aug 19, 2014 3:57 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I've lost my teacher, either that or I just can't hear her anymore. Whistling

Have you tried the new feature yet?
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Aug 19, 2014 5:36 PM CST
Name: Juli
Ohio (Zone 6a)
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I am having fun with this feature! I hardly make any seeds anymore, but it is really interesting to have the thumbnail so you can quickly see off spring that do not resemble the parent as much!

Fun addition, Dave! Thanks for adding it so quickly!
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Aug 19, 2014 8:21 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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That's so nice!!!!!!!
Sempervivum for Sale
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Aug 19, 2014 10:34 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Yes, it's really neat...I love Jungle Shadows' offsprings!!
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Aug 20, 2014 4:17 AM CST
Name: Olivier
Buizingen, Belgium
This function is very interesting. Congratulation !
Is it possible to do the same with parents?
www.sempervivum.legtux.org
www.chromaphyosemion.be
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Aug 20, 2014 7:51 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Good morning Chromo. Yes, it does do parents. Hen and Chick (Sempervivum 'Helen Payne')

If you know parents of any sempervivum in the database let me know.
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Aug 20, 2014 10:16 AM CST
Name: Olivier
Buizingen, Belgium
Yes, beautiful ! But don't work with my cultivar Bambi Kino: Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Bambi Kino')
www.sempervivum.legtux.org
www.chromaphyosemion.be
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Aug 20, 2014 4:30 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Do we have the parent plants listed in the database Chromo? I'm not finding them.
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Aug 20, 2014 5:58 PM CST
Name: Mother Raphaela
Holy Myrrhbearers Monastery NY (Zone 4b)
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"and I obviously have too much time on my hands while the specter of my 8th grade English teacher is sitting on my shoulder every time I make grammatical errors in my typing of posts... Glare"

Bev, I had no idea spelling was going to be such a problem! Zuzu (you must know Zuzu?) thinks I'm a total illiterate. Here I am, innocently ( Angel ) trying to get more badges so I can feel as if I'm accomplishing something in life, snapping photos of all my good old houseplants (somehow it never occurred to me that they, too, have fancy Latin names) and every time I think I've found something new that no one else in ATP has found, Zuzu catches me in a spelling error. *Blush* Sigh.

Such is life.

Go with God.
Mother Raphaela
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Aug 20, 2014 6:08 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I think many of us have been caught in spelling errors, that's why we have people like Zuzu to make the corrections. Hurray!
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Aug 20, 2014 6:24 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Lynn,

One thing I noticed is that there is a "Crests Fuzzy Wuzzy" that shouldn't be in there. That's how 'Fuzzy Wuzzy' is supposed to look! It does make an occasional normal rosette but most are not.

Kevin
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Aug 20, 2014 9:54 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
So there should be just one entry for 'Fuzzy Wuzzy', which would contain both forms?
Let me know and I can combine the two entries.
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Aug 21, 2014 12:56 AM CST
Name: Kate
S Wales UK (Zone 9a)
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Ooo I love the new tool, I've just had lots of fun clicking away through all the 'children'! The down side is now I have to order 'Polly Bishop' and 'Positively glowing' Runs off to see if they can be found in the uk.....
Kate UK
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Aug 21, 2014 4:50 AM CST
Name: Olivier
Buizingen, Belgium
valleylynn said:Do we have the parent plants listed in the database Chromo? I'm not finding them.


In the database, on the Bambi Kino's page, you can read:

Seed parent: S. from Ispartae/Isparta, Turkey
Pollen parent: S. marmoreum ssp. erythraeum Pirin

Thanks for your help, Lynn ;)
www.sempervivum.legtux.org
www.chromaphyosemion.be
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Aug 21, 2014 9:52 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Yes, I know that information is there Chromo, but we don't have the parent plants don't have their own entries. That is why it doesn't link to them.

Kate, sadly those two will only be available in the U.S., and not until 2015, exclusively through Young's Garden Center in Roseburg, Oregon.
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Aug 21, 2014 5:40 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Lynn,

Yes it is the same plant really. I know Peter had taken the "crests" form off his list and it's all 'Fuzzy Wuzzy'.

Thanks Kate for the kind words on my babies. Toby is propagating these plants now and the first of my introductions should be available next year. Hopefully there will be new ones coming each year for many years as I'm really getting into the crossing game. There are about two huindred seedlings from 'Helen Payne' X 'Polly Bishop' that I'm REALLY excited to see next spring when they mature. The mind boggles at the combinations of purple and grey.

Kevin

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