Daylilies forum: En Liberté daylily

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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Aug 28, 2014 11:46 AM CST
The database lists this as a tetraploid. Is that correct? The plant is a result of Square Dancer's Curtsy x Heavenly Angel Ice. That would seem to indicate a diploid result. Unless it's been converted. Are any daylilies converted BEFORE they are introduced? Or, in this case, if both parents were converted before the seedling was produced, does the database have a place to make a notation? Just curious.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Aug 28, 2014 12:21 PM CST
If you don't get a reply here, there is a place in the data base to "edit data details", It is down near the bottom in the large block of edit choices.So you might purpose that it be changed to a diploid. That should at least get a review of the data.
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
Aug 28, 2014 1:06 PM CST
I suspect that there was a slight error.

The hybridizer has registered 25 daylilies. Of those one was registered as diploid -
Juste Pour Nathalie (Forget, 2009) height 24in (61cm), bloom 6in (15.0cm), season M, Rebloom, Dormant, Diploid, 10 buds, 4 branches, Rose cranberry self. (sdlg × Awesome Blossom)

The other 24 were registered as tetraploids.

En Liberté (Forget, 2010) height 26in (66cm), bloom 13in (33cm), season M, Rebloom, Dormant, Tetraploid, 9 buds, 4 branches, Spider Ratio 4.20:1, Petals red orange, orange sepals with yellow spikes. (Square Dancer's Curtsy × Heavenly Angel Ice)

It is probable that the registered diploid is a tetraploid and the registered tetraploid (above) is a diploid. I checked a few but not all of the other tetraploids registered by the hybridizer.
Name: Jonathan Whitinger
Jacksonville, TX (Zone 8a)
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Aug 29, 2014 2:50 PM CST Admin

Daylily seedlings can be converted to tetrapliods right after they germinate.
[Last edited by jon - Sep 4, 2014 9:42 AM (+)]
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