Lilies forum: The potato trick is in play

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Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Sep 1, 2014 2:51 PM CST
Yesterday the wife accidentally knocked off a swelled up seed pod of a cross I did. There was a decent amount of pedicel length left on so I cut it on a 45 degree angle and put it in a potato to hopefully allow it to mature. It was 'carte Blanche' x 'mister Cas' and it was looking good so I wanted to save it. We'll see. I'll keep you updated.
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jmorth
Sep 1, 2014 3:41 PM CST
Never heard of this application. Hope it works.
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Name: Debra
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lovemyhouse
Sep 1, 2014 3:56 PM CST
Be interested to see the results, too.
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Name: della
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dellac
Sep 1, 2014 5:31 PM CST
Thanks for sharing the process. Good luck with it!
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Sep 1, 2014 6:08 PM CST
Oh, I've heard of it but never had an occasion to use it. They say it works! But I thought the potato was also supposed to be partially submerged in a moist media.
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Sep 1, 2014 6:17 PM CST

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I've done this before (successfully). Haven't heard about keeping the spud wet though...
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Sep 1, 2014 6:59 PM CST
Any tips Connie? Darm Crook said that every week and a half I should push it a little deeper to prevent callousing.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Sep 1, 2014 7:12 PM CST
Darm is the champion of the potato nursery. I remember him saying that there are only two lily species that naturally mature seedpods in the Northwest Territories (Canada) where he lives. When you think about all the seed he produces, he could have more potato experience than the rest of the world put together!
I've never had the need to try it.
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Sep 1, 2014 7:22 PM CST
Realistically, it is not an "amazing" cross (that I know of) but I figured why not try it, being that the pod was swelled nicely and it was something I was looking foward to.
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Sep 1, 2014 8:31 PM CST

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Pretty much what Darm said, since I learned from him on a previous yahoo post (a few years ago).
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Sep 5, 2014 5:45 AM CST

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Good luck, Joe! Keep us updated on the progress.
Tracey
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Sep 12, 2014 10:30 PM CST

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So how has the potato trick been coming along?
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Sep 13, 2014 7:27 AM CST

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I was curious about that too. How long does it take to allow ripening?
Tracey
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Sep 13, 2014 4:03 PM CST
I'm just winging it guys. So far so good. A few days after I started it I noticed the pedicel was a little loose in the potato so I took it out, cut a little more off and stuck it in a new spot. So far so good. The pod is still looking green and fairly turgid.
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Sep 13, 2014 4:10 PM CST

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Sounds good. That is what I did with mine.
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Oct 3, 2014 10:30 PM CST

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Do you have an update, Joe?
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Oct 4, 2014 1:20 PM CST
Still going good. Seems like it may be starting to dry a bit.
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Oct 24, 2014 7:58 AM CST
Well the good news is the potato trick worked. Bad news is that there was only one viable seed and the embryo was actually sticking out of the seed so it went to the chaff pile. I would do it again if circumstances warrant it though.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Oct 24, 2014 8:57 AM CST
Joebass said:Bad news is that there was only one viable seed and the embryo was actually sticking out of the seed so it went to the chaff pile.

So was the embryo growing?
I have seen dried Lilium seeds with the embryo poking out of the endosperm, but never thought anything detrimental was happening. It's very common for embryos to naturally position themselves at the edge of the seed in myriads of genera throughout the plant world. With lilies it tends to show itself in seed batches where all the seeds lean toward that trait in varying degrees. No evidence to back up whether the poked out ones were good or not, though.

Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Oct 24, 2014 9:09 AM CST
The endosperm seemed a little abnormal and the embryo was sticking out about an 1/8 inch but didn't appear actively growing. I probably should have taken a picture.

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