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skylark
Sep 5, 2014 3:18 PM CST
pot submerged in water.
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mjsponies
Sep 6, 2014 6:31 PM CST
Haven't a clue but I really like the leaf pattern. Where was this one ?
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skylark
Sep 6, 2014 7:30 PM CST
same mystery place you already guessed nodding
philos don't grow in water, do they? colo/alocasias usually have diff veining...so this leaves anthuriums?...
here's a full pic by the ponds (which are thankfully public):
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mjsponies
Sep 6, 2014 7:57 PM CST
Anthuriums don't grow in water either. There's alot of other Aroids besides Colocasia's that will grow in water tho. I bet @eclayne (Evan) would know or @homer1958 (Drew)
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eclayne
Sep 6, 2014 9:27 PM CST

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The leaves are a foot or more skylark? We have 232 plants that have a spadix (aroids +1) and can be grown in water in our DB. I was reminded of Anthurium too but have not come across one that could grow submerged.
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eclayne
Sep 6, 2014 9:27 PM CST

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Can we borrow the pics? Big Grin
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skylark
Sep 7, 2014 8:56 AM CST
go ahead! that fish is huge by the way - close to 3' may be. so the leaves are 1'- 1.5'. i wish i took close-up of the stems...next time will know better.
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eclayne
Sep 8, 2014 7:46 PM CST

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Here's the plant skylark.
Homalomena expedita

and the description.
Homalomena expedita
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eclayne
Sep 8, 2014 7:57 PM CST

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P.S.
P.C. Boyce notes it is invasive where it's happy.

...and it's happy in fresh and tidal swamps, water or bogs.
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skylark
Sep 8, 2014 9:12 PM CST
Hurray! Thank You!
but..but..oh-kay! now i google and what do i see - thai and russian sites ...again!
check this one out - some pics! nothing like this is here? yes, those ARE homalomenas. yer, i heard the name before, but nothing like this!
http://www.magnoliathailand.com/webboard/index.php?topic=306...
naturally, you're the only one with pics in DB!? do you actually grow them? are they similar to ..what? colos?
but 'mine' is quite nice, no? yellow-green with those veins....oh, Drooling if i had a pond...
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Sep 8, 2014 10:02 PM CST

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Skylark, the pics I put in the database are Peter Boyce's from CATE Araceae. He's the one who identified your pics. Maybe it would do well in one of those galvanized steel tubs? Make a mini-bog! Big Grin
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skylark
Sep 9, 2014 10:26 AM CST
oh-ho-ho-ho! i am an extreme gardener for sure!?! but a bog tub? mm-m ..here's a pic of my balcony, where mohito's and margaritas like to be drunk nodding
it's up in the sky. and my jades and aralias and ivies and calamondins and-and...others... claimed it first, as they won't thrive otherwise. i've been reducing a bit this year, as it's just too much and i can't go away for more then 3-4 days in the summer heat...but it's a pretty representative picture Smiling
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skylark
Sep 9, 2014 10:29 AM CST
and that's what 'margarita passage' looks like: a bit risky to navigate in the dark!
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Sep 9, 2014 5:23 PM CST

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Beautiful skylark!
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purpleinopp
Sep 12, 2014 8:10 AM CST
Beautiful!! Skylark, do I know you from another garden site? Your balcony looks familiar... ;)
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mjsponies
Sep 12, 2014 8:41 AM CST
Looks like a great place to have Margaritas ! What do you do with them all in the winter ?
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skylark
Sep 12, 2014 9:32 AM CST
purple, yes...you surely do know my cushions by now?! unique vintage nodding unmistakable ;).
mj, some stuff goes into bags under shelves (corms/bulbs/tubers - which is exactly why i grow them), petunias, coleus dries up, and the rest...well, since i don't have a garage or cold storage...it all somehow or the other stuffs into nooks and crannies. i do not usually post THOSE pics...in the living room a lot of stuff goes behind the couch, so it's invisible and the rest gets an understory brush all of a sudden (wall to wall). i have a very large expanse of fl to ceil windows, they are my 'green walls', so the light is good.
The xmas tree presents extreme challenge, as it occupies the best light corner and is HUGE. i weaseled out of putting it up last year (2 weeks to dress to perfection, 1 week to take down and pack...to perfection...!)- so that was a BIG expansion for planties. it's only jades, aralias, crotons, calamondins, sansi and ivies, you know... Hilarious!
here's a plug of my tree, just the TOP half of it.. i am a maximalist ;). may the memory of it live forever... Smiling
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purpleinopp
Sep 12, 2014 12:03 PM CST
Nice! And so glad to see you over here!! The database/list facilities are the best, I see you've found them already. Love your multi-plant pics!
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skylark
Sep 12, 2014 6:36 PM CST
thanks, purple. and i know that you now have a little h.'emerald gem'. there seems to be very little available info about homalomena in general. how are you growing yours? you 're in good company with peter boyce - just a few people who grow them ;). i really like the veining (on both).
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purpleinopp
Sep 14, 2014 7:52 AM CST
Oh, TY for asking, but it'll be a few yrs until I'm in a position to say much about Homalomena. I have a little start I got in trade in a box about 6 wks/2 mos ago. It's still in the 'ignore it' phase. I did move the pot to a bit more sun after it perked up. If I pay attention to new plants, they die, so I've put this one on ignore until I need to bring it in/repot it, probably both. Out of the corner of my eye, it's doing GREAT! (With a few friends.)

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I wonder about its' apparent rarity too. Are they mistaken for other plants, or really just not sold? Out of fashion currently? Doesn't seem to have a common name? Hard to discuss since everyone's going to want to say, "I've not seen them for sale" but then start wondering, "...or have I?" Who posts a pic on a forum, "Look at my 30-yr old Homalomena?" Nobody I've seen, forums or, the past couple yrs, on FB. Hope to someday!

I think the movement/oxygen content of the water is something to consider? A stagnant bucket is not comparable to a 'live' pond, or moving stream. Contact with the ground, and other factors add oxygen to the water? Not something I want to try, but if I did, I'd put an aquarium bubbler thing in there.




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