Agastache and Salvias forum: How to root salvia ?

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Name: Sheridragonfly/Sheri
Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Sheridragonfly
Sep 6, 2014 12:23 PM CST
can I root salvia in mid September if our first frost is usually in november?
How do I root it and will it have time to get to growing enough to over winter
in zone 8 ?

Does Blue Ensign salvia make enough from the base of the plant in roots
to be able to divide it the next spring after it is has been in the flower bed
for one season here?

any ideas?
I would like to get 2 plants off these that I have to add more to the flower garden for next spring?

thanks
Sheri /sheridragonfly
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Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Sep 6, 2014 6:31 PM CST

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Hi Sheri

I'm in zone 6a and I've never rooted anything before.

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Could you answer Sheri's questions, please?
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Name: Duane
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duane456
Sep 6, 2014 9:01 PM CST
It may be too late to try to root one. But no harm in trying.
I cut a shoot, cut a couple lower leaves off, cut the flowers if present, put in a pot with good,saturated potting soil, put a plastic bag over the entire plant and close it around the pot. Make sure you put a few holes in the top of the bag. And make sure it doesn't touch the leaves. Leave for a couple of weeks protected from direct sunlight. Pull back off after a couple of weeks. Sometimes they take, sometimes they don't.
Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Sep 6, 2014 11:34 PM CST

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Thanks Duane! I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up
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Name: Duane
Gresham OR (Zone 8a)
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duane456
Sep 7, 2014 8:53 AM CST
I should have added to take a healthy shoot and use a clear plastic bag.
Name: Kermit Carter
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FBTS
Sep 9, 2014 9:28 AM CST
No really easy short answer. Your timing is OK though. We are working on an article on this that I hope will be ready in a week or so.

Name: Kermit Carter
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FBTS
Sep 9, 2014 9:29 AM CST
BTW, we routinely divide these in the garden. They form large clumps and one can divide (in the spring) and get many, many new plants.

Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Sep 9, 2014 9:39 AM CST

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Thanks so much Kermit! I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up
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Name: Sheridragonfly/Sheri
Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Sheridragonfly
Sep 10, 2014 2:50 PM CST
thank you for answering it is too late to try the rooting
but I will remember the plastic bag with holes in the top out of direct sunlight
for next summer and try to root one
Hope can divide the blue ensign next spring..we will see.

thanks for all answers!
Sheri/sheridragonfly
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Name: Kermit Carter
Elk, California (Zone 9a)
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FBTS
Sep 11, 2014 3:26 PM CST
We are scheduled to film a video on "Salvia Propagation 101" next week. Lots of easy methods and some tips to help anyone make new plants. I'll post a link when it is online.

BTW, this coming Saturday we'll be posting a video on the topic of "Rootbound Salvias: Assessment & Treatment".


Name: Sheridragonfly/Sheri
Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Sheridragonfly
Oct 1, 2014 11:40 AM CST
I thought I would take some cuttings of two toned microphylla salvia
this past week and I did..
I got some tender new shoots and some brown
harder stem ones and in a third of glass of water..no chlorine
on the shady porch

They are alive.......and I think they will live and root..
I am posting a picture of my salvia cuttings rooting in water.

The ones I stuck in the sandy soil and watered and covered with pasteboard
over the top but left air to all sides did not do as well..

If these root I will give them to a friend to pot and put in her green house for the coming winter here..and she will have a salvia plant to put in her flower bed
next spring.
sheri
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Oct 1, 2014 2:10 PM CST

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Sheri

Looks good. Keep us updated on it. Thumbs up
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Name: Sherry
Northern California
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wcgypsy
Oct 19, 2014 1:32 PM CST
I always root a lot of salvias in water also...I root many different plants in water. Since moving to the far northwest corner of California, even farther north than kermit...lol..we get about 60-70 inches of rain in a 'normal' year, though with the drought, last year was only about 35 inches...what do you get there, kermit? 40 inches, or more than that? Anyway, it will be interesting to see how the various salvias handle that. My salvias in SoCal were in Heaven, no frost and the climate suited them. I'm basically starting over with the salvias and agastaches and it will all be rather experimental. I'm getting some few plants into the ground late and don't know how they will handle the rain, hoping to get seed from s. rhinosa, s. azurea. s. transyllvanica, s. atrocyanea, s. forskaohlei before the rains hit. I have a large s. elegans / pineapple in a quite large pot and it will stay in that through winter...but I will take cuttings today and root in water in the house. I have a neighbor who has LARGE wooden planting boxes, we're talking 4'x4' and about 3' tall and they're filled with s. elegans that make it through the Winter just fine. I'm in Crescent City which is not exactly Banana Belt, but 20 miles north is...so our weather can vary. Last Winter was exceptionally cold for our location, so we will see what this Winter brings and I will learn which salvias and agastaches can stand a bit of 'drowning'. The soil on our property is mostly quite well drained, so that will help. All in all to say "try rooting in water"...fresh water every day with a drop or two of hydrogen peroxide in it...even when I was doing a lot of rooting in the regular fashion, I would when in a hurry, take quick cuttings here and there and put them in water in the kitchen.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Oct 19, 2014 9:57 PM CST

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Sherry

Keep us updated! Thumbs up
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Name: Sheridragonfly/Sheri
Alabama (Zone 8b)
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Sheridragonfly
Nov 8, 2014 9:01 AM CST
I came back to post to tell you that my salvia cuttings looked great for 2 weeks
in the cup in the shade in well water..

They never formed roots...

changed the water daily...leaves stayed green for 2 weeks and stems
then they turned brown and died..

I did not know to add a drop of peroxide ..that makes sense and will do that next time..thanks WCGypsy for that advice..
I use peroxide for cleaning cat scratches on my arms etc for the bacteria or from a dog scratch..

I clean countertops and also toilets with it...as it has no smell and I am chemical sensitive..and fragrance sensitive...hospitals use it for same purposes ...

so I always have a new bottle of hydrogen peroxide in the house

Sheri/sheridragonfly
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
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wcgypsy
Nov 8, 2014 10:12 AM CST
It also depends on which salvia to some extent, though almost all of mine have rooted in water...and I keep them in the kitchen, on a sill or spot with light and no direct sunlight, clean water daily, but yes, the peroxide helps....it's also one of my most 'useful' things...that and echinacea and goldenseal (not for the plants, but for me...lol...)

Sherry not dragonfly......
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Nov 8, 2014 11:54 PM CST

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