Plumeria forum: I have never seen this

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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Sep 15, 2014 2:00 PM CST
I have grown Plumeria for three decades. As far as I know I have never seen a tip/branch growing off of a flower stalk. Perhaps it happens all the time and I just never noticed it. This is a 4-tip Celadine and has been in bloom for almost 4 weeks. Should I now call it a 5-tip? Shrug!

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This is a 6-tip Celadine and the base is over 2" in diameter. The "Mother" plant where this cutting came from has a base of over 4" and it has always grown potted. I think this cutting was rooted last summer.

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Last but not least is Malysian Red getting ready to flower. It is a 3-tip plant.

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Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Sep 15, 2014 3:24 PM CST

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It happens occasionally.
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drdawg
Sep 15, 2014 5:03 PM CST
What do I do with the stalk/stem, Hetty? It can't possibly support the new tip as it grows.
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Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Sep 15, 2014 5:23 PM CST

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You'd be surprised.
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drdawg
Sep 15, 2014 8:10 PM CST
OK, let's be sure about this, Hetty. You are telling me that a flower stalk can support an entire branch, right?
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Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Sep 16, 2014 5:08 AM CST

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So far it has worked; Mother Nature has her ways. Notice for instance what happens when an inflorescence gets a seedpod; suddenly this delicate inflo, which would have aborted after finishing blooming, becomes strong and sturdy and I've seen those seedpods swing and sway in a hurricane without breaking....
Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Sep 16, 2014 6:26 AM CST
I have never seen a seedpod, Hetty. I guess my question is whether the inflorescence can be rooted (not now, but next spring)? Perhaps I am completely wrong, but common sense tells me that an inflorescence could not possibly support branching, whether a single tip or multiple tips, when those tips become long, heavy branches. Perhaps the inflorescence becomes woody like a branch/stem when it forms a tip(s)?

Since you have seen this before, and since it appears to be an uncommon occurrence, do you happen to have pictures of what I am seeing and even better, pictures of inflorescences with a large branch(s) growing from them?

As always, I appreciate your expertise.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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drdawg
Sep 16, 2014 9:36 AM CST
It is apparent that I have a plumeria mislabeled. It is labeled "Celadine" but it is not a Celadine. This plant would not be a seedling but would have been a cutting, probably purchased from Mike several years ago. The inflorescence stem is bright green whereas the Celadine's is red. The flowers are mostly yellow and about 50% larger than the Celadine flowers. The leaves are about the same length/color but are a bit more narrow than the Celadine. The fragrance is even stronger than the Celadine and I would say it might be peachy (but I'm terrible describing fragrances!).

I wonder if this is not Aztec Gold. The problem is, I have never purchased that variety. Sticking tongue out What is its ID?

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Dutchlady1
Sep 16, 2014 10:28 AM CST

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It is not Aztec Gold for sure, which has a pink back to the petals, and pubescent tips.

Celadine has a double vein on the edge of the leaf. Very clearly visible in your fourth picture above.

There are occasionally Celadine seedlings around that display similar characteristics.
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drdawg
Sep 16, 2014 3:09 PM CST
OK. Someone has told me that the Celadine is the ONLY plumeria with these double-lined borders on their leaves. After all the years of growing and having had dozens of my Celadine bloom, it is just so strange to have one with huge yellow flowers and a completely different fragrance than all others I have observed.

Keep in mind that this is a cutting from either the 30 year old mother plant, or a cutting of a rooted-cutting from that original plant. I have never had a seed pod, though I wish I could.

I don't know how anyone keeps up with these variations! :whistling:

Thanks, everyone. Thumbs up
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