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lorishell
Oct 11, 2014 7:37 PM CST
Hoping my Monarch baby makes it! Days and nights getting cooler.
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Catmint20906
Oct 13, 2014 6:02 AM CST
Looks pretty close to emerging! Thumbs up I think my remaining BST chrysalises are going to overwinter
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mellielong
Oct 13, 2014 2:15 PM CST

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Actually, I think it looks diseased or parasatized. That's not the right color for the chrysalis to be. It should stay green and then slowly change to where you can start to see the wing pattern. That brown color is not normal.
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Name: Catmint/Robin
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Catmint20906
Oct 13, 2014 2:27 PM CST
Mellie I've had some BST chrysalises that were green like you describe but others are more brown.
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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Oct 13, 2014 5:49 PM CST

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Catmint, BST chrysalises naturally vary between green and brown. Most swallowtails do. Monarch chrysalises should never be brown.
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Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Region: Maryland Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 The WITWIT Badge
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Catmint20906
Oct 14, 2014 4:17 AM CST
Oh, right--for some reason I was thinking we were talking about BST chrysalises, not Monarch chrysalises. That's what I get for answering on the run!
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Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Catmint20906
Oct 14, 2014 4:42 AM CST
I also assumed the brownish coloring was the photography, not the chrysalis itself, but Mellie of course is the expert! Big Grin @Lorishell, let us know if it ecloses okay--poor baby! Lovey dubby
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lorishell
Oct 25, 2014 10:41 PM CST
What could have caused it to become diseased? @mellie Poor little thing, I was so excited and now ):
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mellielong
Oct 26, 2014 5:52 AM CST

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Lori, first off you called out the wrong username so someone out there might be confused. But back to the topic...the most common Monarch disease is called OE (for short). Here's a Monarch Watch article about it: http://www.monarchwatch.org/biology/ophry.htm

Plus, caterpillars get parasatized a lot and there are other, lesser known diseases. I have a Cloudless Sulphur chrysalis right now that instead of turning yellow is turning black. Has a funny smell, too which is pretty much a sign it is not okay. It's a bummer, but it happens.
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