Plant Database forum: Chicory (Cichorium intybus)

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Name: Michele Roth
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Nov 6, 2014 7:42 AM CST
Is there no acceptable way to separate the widely differing plants in this entry? By widely differing I mean as a visual identification source, not necessarily from a botanical standpoint. As it is now, a person who is looking for a plant ID has to do a lot of research elsewhere to find out if their plant fits in this category.

Here are three examples:
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Nov 9, 2014 7:54 PM CST
Oh my! Blinking Chelle, you are so right! Something needs to be done if possible.
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Name: Zuzu
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Nov 9, 2014 8:17 PM CST

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There are two subspecies of C. intybus. If you can identify any of these photos as C. intybus subsp. intybus or C. intybus subsp. spicatum or as cultivars of C. intybus, they can be moved to those entries. If not, then there's nothing to be done. External differences really are irrelevant. A cocker spaniel doesn't resemble a chihuahua, but both are of the same species.
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Nov 11, 2014 10:48 PM CST
I'm no expert on this, but part of the confusion may be that the third photo shows the winter-forced "chicons" -- I only know this because I want to grow this next year (thank you, Chelle, for offering seeds on the Piggy Swap!). The plant grows as basically a weed thing the first year, then you dig it up, stick the roots in buckets, and keep it cold until you want it to start growing the "chicons." Yeah, it's a long winter here, I'm willing to do almost anything to pretend I'm still gardening Rolling my eyes.
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