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Nov 19, 2014 9:19 PM CST
|I'm curious, do the moderators, Sharon and Char input all the newly registered daylily information each year? And if so, I just wanted to say thank you. And how long does that take? For 2014 there were over 2000 new registrations. Wow! When and how does 2015 start?|
Nov 19, 2014 9:29 PM CST
|November 1 is the cutoff date each year. Any cultivar registered after that date is the next year's registration. The registrar has already completed a number of 2015 registrations. Names (but not other information on 2015's) will show upon the next upload.|
Nov 19, 2014 9:31 PM CST
|And then sometime after that someone here will begin putting that information into the Daylily Database?|
Nov 19, 2014 9:43 PM CST
|I can't speak for this database, only the AHS database. The information will be already IN the database when the names show, but as the official registering body for hemerocallis, we must follow the rules as stated in the ICNCP ("the code"). Those rules specify that the complete data cannot be shown until the registrations become official each year. Registrations are only official when we print a hard copy checklist. Right now the 2014 data is being compiled and sorted and then there is the painstaking task of proof reading all of the data word for word. The checklist usually goes to printer in Feb. When we receive and begin to distribute hard copies of the 2014 checklists (usually early April) then we open the 2014 data on the database. 2015 data will not be shown until early 2016. Of course, you can always glean "unofficial" data when someone puts it on their website.|
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
Nov 20, 2014 6:51 AM CST
|Below is part of the ICNCP information about the registration and publication of cultivar names copied from http://www.ishs.org/sci/icrana... I have emphasized what seems to be very important information for anyone registering a cultivar.|
WHAT DO I DO WITH MY NEW NAME?
Assuming that your name is not due to be submitted as part of an application for statutory registration, then once you have satisfied yourself that your name is in an acceptable form, register it with the appropriate ICRA. This will cost you little more than time spent filling in a form and sending it off but will help ensure that the name is internationally recognized forever.
The name will have to be published in order to be fixed. You may either publish it yourself, say in your nursery catalogue if you are a nurseryman, or the ICRA concerned will publish it for you in due course if you register the name with them. ICRAs however are placed under no obligation to publish your name within a short period of time and you should realise that your chosen name might be used by someone else for a completely different plant unless you take steps to ensure early publication. If someone else, even if in a different part of the world, publishes your chosen name for a different cultivar in the same genus or other denomination class, you will have to think of another.
Publication of your new name must be in printed or similarly duplicated matter which is distributed to the general public or at least to botanical, agricultural, forestry or horticultural institutions with libraries. Newspapers, gardening or non-scientific magazines and similar publications which are not designed to last do not count as publications in this case. Publication on the World Wide Web or on CD-ROM does not count as publication since the pages are not permanent.
Publications must be dated. A new name appearing in a nursery catalogue will not be treated as having been published if that catalogue is not dated at least to the year.
Do not publish more than one name for the same cultivar in the same publication: if you do this none will be considered as having been published in that publication.
It may be that you are registering or publishing a new cultivar name on behalf of someone else or that you are promoting a new name for a cultivar raised by someone else. Check that the originator of the cultivar agrees with the proposed name (and its spelling) that you are promoting; if the originator does not, the name may have to be rejected later in favour of the originator's choice.
When you publish a new cultivar name, you must include a description of the cultivar. The longer and more complete the description the better, but at least state its obvious characteristics and if you can, state how it differs from an existing cultivar. It is helpful, but not compulsory, to provide an informative illustration of the new cultivar in the publication if expense permits.
Make a statement such as "new cultivar name" (not just "new" or "new cultivar") after the proposed name so that others may recognize the fact that you have deliberately published a new name for the first time. If you regularly publish new cultivar names, it would be most advantageous to list any new names appearing in your publication in a single place in that publication.
Nov 20, 2014 8:14 AM CST
|I guess there was some confusion in my post when I didn't clearly specify ATP Daylily Database. I understand registering a daylily with AHS. I was just questioning the work done here at ATP with respect to the database at ATP for daylilies, and who does the typing and transferring of all that information, and wanted to personally give my thanks to them ... those at ATP. But thanks Maurice and Julie.|
Nov 20, 2014 8:16 AM CST
|I think Sue does most of the manual work, and sets the links to the AHS DB.|
Nov 20, 2014 6:24 PM CST
|Hi Kayleigh, a brief explanation to your question about daylily information in the ATP database....|
Dave is responsible for the programming that makes the ATP database so easy to use when searching for information on cultivars.and entering the majority of the daylily registration information once it is available from the AHS database. Sue moderates the ATP database reviewing all the data and images being entered. The members of ATP enter images, registration info and comments about the cultivars. As an ATP member, I frequently enter registration data, images and submit corrections when I see them. The ATP database for daylilies and other plants is possible, and successful, because it is a group effort and open to all members who want to contribute. Adding a with Kayleigh's to everyone, for the thousands of beautiful images and incredible amount of information entered into the ATP database.
Nov 20, 2014 6:41 PM CST
|Char. So then the daylily database is more or less the same as with any other plants. I thought perhaps just one or two people input all those 2000+ new 2014 registrations. Well, anyway, again to all who helped!|