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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Jan 4, 2015 3:10 PM CST
The historics we see are hardy. The others died out like any other weaker plant. Some of the TBs get their form from I. mesopotamica (not sure of the spelling of that). When ordering TBs for New England, we used to look for hardy iris in the pedigree. When I see a very hardy iris there, I would give preference to the newer child Or grandchild of that one. I hope that I am clear as to meaning. Reports of plants which do well in your particular area are helpful.
Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Muddymitts
Jan 4, 2015 3:34 PM CST
Sherry -- I would love a start of Gingersnap! Lovey dubby And could I talk you into tucking a rhizome of Father Rigney in with Gingersnap? What a gorgeous color -- and I love the form. Lovey dubby Ordinarily, I am not a lover of historics -- but some of them just grab ya!! These two do, for me. Smiling

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Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Muddymitts
Jan 4, 2015 3:37 PM CST
Oh -- and Hi Mary Stella!! Welcome to our group -- we love people who love Irises!!! nodding Welcome!
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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lovemyhouse
Jan 4, 2015 3:38 PM CST
Mary Ann, maybe you could plant Gingersnap and the one I am sending to you close together? My tentative ID is Copper Classic and the two should be complementary. Or maybe just take photographs and post them side by side. That would work, too. Hilarious!
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Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Muddymitts
Jan 4, 2015 3:43 PM CST
Wouldn't that be gorgeous Deb? And what if I planted Father Rigney inbetween them? Assuming, of course, that Sherry is willing and able to part with a rhizome of that one................ Whistling

I'm thinking that I'm going to have to develop an historic bed. I have my own historics that I bought in the 70's -- and a few others have found their way here, over the years. And I'm beginning to see some, here and there, that I really like -- and would like to have. But I'm thinking that if they're planted next to moderns, they will be kind of overlooked. What does everyone else think about that?
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jan 4, 2015 4:24 PM CST
Mary Ann, I had to chuckle when I read "we love people who love irises"...I thought to myself, "and even though we think people who don't are weird, we're still really nice to them" LOL I do enjoy comparing oldies to moderns during bloom season, it's cool to see traits in an earlier form that have been greatly increased through hybridizing. I have simple oldies and flashy moderns interspersed throughout the garden, interrupted by other plants, and I love seeing a multitude of sizes and shapes of Iris blooms at once. Of course I'm such a bloom hog, I never got that saying "less is more"- when it comes to flowers I think more is better and too much is best! LOL

Sherry I think many old historics are hardier (I refuse to call any introduced in my lifetime historic, LOL), the fact that many still exist attests to their toughness. True Delight was aptly named! Precious! I love Confetti too.
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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse
Jan 4, 2015 4:44 PM CST
I know what you mean Neal.. It's like going into an antique store and seeing your childhood toys. It's just not right! Hilarious!

Mary Ann.. I'm trying to use Debra's clever system of keeping tracks of who wants what.. So I'll put you down for both.
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Service dogs: Angels with paws.
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lovemyhouse
Jan 4, 2015 4:45 PM CST
gemini_sage said:...I thought to myself, "and even though we think people who don't are weird, we're still really nice to them" LOL ...I think more is better and too much is best! LOL
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Mebbe, mebbe, Mary Ann.
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jan 4, 2015 5:00 PM CST
Thank you, you're so sweet Sherry! Those have me thinking combos!

"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jan 4, 2015 5:05 PM CST
Love that brown blotch on the hafts of Father Rigney, and Debra that looks so cool paired with browns!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
Jan 4, 2015 5:19 PM CST
Here's how I've used 'Gingersnap in this bed.. 'I've got 'Glen Ellen' on the left and 'Fall Fiesta' on the right. 'Champagne Encore' is to the far right...

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then following off to the right, 'Spiced Tiger', 'Dynamite' and 'Hot Spice'



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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jan 4, 2015 5:20 PM CST

"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Bulbs Cottage Gardener Roses Irises
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gemini_sage
Jan 4, 2015 5:23 PM CST
Sherry, you've got a great eye! For years I've contemplated installing a bed of autumnal tones, mostly inspired by so many Irises in all those rich colors. Golden foliage really brightens the effect beautifully!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Calif_Sue
Jan 4, 2015 5:41 PM CST

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Oh you guys are killing me! These are such wonderful combos and it's a neat way to show color echoes!

I am partial to warm colors, so again, Sherry, I do think you are right, we are somewhat kindred spirits.
But Neal, your color combos speak to me too!
I think I am sooooo ready for spring! nodding
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jan 4, 2015 6:04 PM CST
I've been working on combos for an area farther from the house, where I want brightness and light, and colors that show off from a distance. Some ideas I'm toying with...



"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Jan 4, 2015 6:17 PM CST
I have tried all heights. I honestly wouldn't know an historic if it bit me. Guess I could figure it out based on hybridization date. I have had some of all heights survive one year then die the second winter. Or produce robust plants but no bloom the second summer, then rotted the third winter. No clue what causes such different results. My husband says that digging my beds out from under snow (up to 2') in the spring harms them. They need to wait until the snow has melted then come out on their own. I have a bed outback on a tiny very slightly sloped rise that is the first ground to show up (like the palm branch --or whatever it was-- that the doves brought back to Noah.) I figure if they can grow that early then so should every one else. But I wonder. They have a chance to dry out a bit as the snow melts and runs off the slope. The other beds are flat and form little gaps with water. Death to iris. The peonies don't mind. They can sit in their own little ice rink and not care. they just wait til it is gone and there are the pips coming up. In some cases the pips broke ground the previous fall, wintered under snow and then endure ice to burst forth with huge gorgeous plants and blooms.

I will pay more attention (make a spreadsheet) of which iris survive under what conditions: in the ground (which beds and their condition as to slope, sun, etc), in pots, when moved indoors, how much water over winter, when outdoors.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Calif_Sue
Jan 4, 2015 7:43 PM CST

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A real challenge I would imagine Mary Stella!

Neal, I sure can attest to Rosa 'Gebrueder Grimm' being a bright attention getter in the garden!!
Anything in the yellows and oranges also stand out, with whites of course. Iris 'Paul Black' stands out with that intense color and orange beard, it would be great paired with anything orange/bronze. I have it next to a large deep bronze phormium and a variegated abutilon. The phormium shades it too much now, it's doubled in height since this shot was taken so I will have to move the iris.
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jan 4, 2015 10:00 PM CST
Sue, you are so good at seamlessly blending pops of clear, vibrant colors with earthy tones! I'm going to be staring at your pics with a keen eye, there are so many warm earth tones I've passed on thinking I didn't have a good home for them. You're showing me otherwise- thanks! I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
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Calif_Sue
Jan 4, 2015 10:14 PM CST

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Blues and purples mixed with yellows, peaches and oranges are some of my favorite color combos. My problem is I like too many plants and sometimes I just want to plop them in anywhere. Then it quickly becomes apparent what doesn't work. Taking lots of pictures help me to study them and decide what needs moving and where. Now I just need more time to actually get those moves done before another year rolls by. Hilarious!

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Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Muddymitts
Jan 4, 2015 10:21 PM CST
Sherry -- I love your blends of yellows, browns and deep reds! Scrumptious!!! Lovey dubby
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