Daylilies forum: Alphabet of Daylily Terms...Let's Talk About "U"

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Name: Char
Vermont (Zone 4b)
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Char
Feb 25, 2015 7:03 AM CST

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Two "U" terms to start the thread for today.

Unusual form
The Unusual form of daylilies has three subforms, crispate, cascade and spatulate. A link to the AHS definition
http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_dictionary/unusual_form.html

A few of my favorites UF's are...





Ugly seedlings...if you hybridize you will have them. Seedlings destined for the compost pile from crosses that just didn't work the way you imagined. Sometimes you just have to find the humor in what can be a disappointment..

This seedling reminds me of aliens with eyeballs on long antennas ...found it watching me while I tagged all the pretty keeper seedlings. It got a keep tag, too...simply because it makes me laugh every time I see it.
Thumb of 2015-02-25/Char/4ca392

This one knows it is ugly... covering it's face not wanting me take a picture...ended up in the compost pile.
Thumb of 2015-02-25/Char/339395

Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Feb 25, 2015 7:37 AM CST
My "U" term will be Unique, it seems the Spiders, Unusual forms, the edges and eyes are all being developed in order to have a daylily that is Unique.
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Polymerous
Feb 25, 2015 10:49 AM CST
LOL at your ugly seedlings, Char! Rolling on the floor laughing (Yes, I have them too, but mine are not nearly as interesting as yours!)

My term for today is unexpected. With respect to hybridizing, the unexpected is the seedling that turns out nothing like what you expected from the cross (which, yes, can include the ugly).

The unexpected can happen many ways. One example would be a double seedling resulting from single parents.

For example, {'Forever Red' x 'Temptation's Kiss'} x 'Best in Class'

{ x } x

produced 'Doubly Hot'



Another example would be a daylily which blooms singly on the first scapes, but doubling (or at least consistently producing petaloids) on the rebloom scapes. 'But Wait There's More' (I love that name!) is one such daylily, also a child of single parents.

'Coral Majority' as a single bloom
presumably on rebloom, showing petaloids

It is not only hybridizers who may encounter the unexpected. I grow neither of the above daylilies (though I got 'Doubly Hot' recently, it has yet to bloom here), but last season, for the first time ever, I saw petaloids on 'Winning Note'.



in my garden:

Thumb of 2015-02-25/Polymerous/48e882 Thumb of 2015-02-25/Polymerous/179f53

One seedling which I would guess was very unexpected by the hybridizer is now a registered cultivar, 'Undefinable'



The current avatar image is that of a volunteer daylily seedling showing cristation.
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Frillylily
Feb 25, 2015 11:37 AM CST
UNKL this for me means Unknown Location. Key on my map for when I *just know* I planted that... somewhere... I don't know where... maybe it will show up!


Unpopular- As crazy as this may seem for us here on ATP, the majority of folks shopping at nurseries and landscaping their yards, still think of daylilies as those 'tall orange things at grandma's'... They have no idea what they are missing out on. And even those who do grow a handful of dl who still detest oranges for the same reason---they are really missing out... orange has come a long way baby!

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Frillylily
Feb 25, 2015 3:17 PM CST
http://garden.org/plants/browse/plants/children/181473/?q=U

Daylilies that start with "U" in the ATP database.

I don't think I have any!

Name: Char
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Char
Feb 26, 2015 7:32 AM CST

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Most of my ugly seedlings are not that cute or funny, they are just plain u-gggg-l-y. Smiling

As a hybridizer it can be disappointing to see the parentage of a daylily listed as unknown X unknown....lost tags, dropped seed trays....it happens.

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Frillylily
Feb 26, 2015 7:56 AM CST
I think some hybridizers just choose not to disclose parentage?
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Hemlady
Feb 26, 2015 9:26 AM CST
I agree
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Polymerous
Feb 26, 2015 4:25 PM CST
I certainly have my share of seedlings with unknown heritage (a situation which I am endeavoring to improve). I can imagine it being worse for large hybridizing gardens (those with thousands or even tens of thousands of seedlings), so having some introductions where at least one parent is unknown would not be that surprising, or even having an occasional introduction where neither of the parents is known.

What is beginning to irk me, though, is when all of the introductions from a garden have no listed parentage. It makes me think that either the hybridizer is extremely lazy (not bothering to keep any records whatsoever), and/or extremely careless (losing labels, tags, and/or dropping seeds), or they are deliberately being cagey about something. More and more I want to have some idea of what behavior to expect from a daylily, especially if it is going to be one that I am going to shell out big $ for. If the plant is from a garden which never lists parentage, I have to ask myself (among other things) if it is because there are one or more well-known rust buckets in the ancestry.
The current avatar image is that of a volunteer daylily seedling showing cristation.

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