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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
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pirl
Mar 5, 2015 7:21 PM CST
By mid to late June this is the view through the same kitchen window:
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I do try dreaming away that the snow really will be gone and I'll see blooms again.

Thanks for the tip. I guess I'm just greedy when it comes to dahlias and want all the blooms I can get so I don't disbud though I know I should. It will be interesting to see what happens with your testing, Geof.

(Does mandolls have any relationship to "boy toy"?)

Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Vegetable Grower Birds Region: United States of America
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gardenglassgems
Mar 5, 2015 7:54 PM CST
I have a question. What is the reason for disbudding the Dahlias? I only grow a few that I dig up and bring in for the winter. I would like to buy more cause I do have room to plant them.
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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pirl
Mar 5, 2015 8:23 PM CST
Disbudding produces larger blooms on the buds you leave on the plant. That's the only purpose of it for as much as I've read about it.

Go to any Home Depot or any of the big box stores and buy more! They are truly a bargain though sometimes they do not end up being what's on the photo for the bag of dahlias. More often they are right so take a chance. For about $30.00 you could get a dozen and no shipping fees.
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Vegetable Grower Birds Region: United States of America
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gardenglassgems
Mar 5, 2015 9:33 PM CST
Thanks Arlene. I understand it now. My sister-in-law told me to do that with my one rose bush. Our cold winter two years ago froze it out and it never came back. I do not live near those big stores, only WalMart. I will keep it in mind if I get near a Home Depot. There is one about 2 hours away. Not sure where a big box store is.
Yard decor, repurposing, and flowers,
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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pirl
Mar 5, 2015 9:37 PM CST
Walmart, Home Depot and Lowe's are all big box stores. If you have a Costco or BJ's or any such store that sell products in volume, they should also have plants.

Walmart is where I bought two dahlias last week. Give them a try.

I don't disbud roses. Between the deer and Japanese beetles they don't leave me many roses so I appreciate every bud.
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Vegetable Grower Birds Region: United States of America
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gardenglassgems
Mar 5, 2015 9:55 PM CST
Thanks. I didn't realize that those stores were referred to as big box stores. I guess I am a little behind the times. I am going to check out Walmart tomorrow. I sometimes get flowers from Menard's which is 1 hour away.
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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pirl
Mar 5, 2015 10:01 PM CST
It was strange to me when I first heard it so you are not alone.

Menard's should have them! Happy hunting.
Name: Geof
NW Wisconsin (Zone 4b)
Region: Wisconsin Dahlias Garden Ideas: Level 1 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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mandolls
Mar 6, 2015 6:56 AM CST
"(Does mandolls have any relationship to "boy toy"?)" - not at the age of 60 Big Grin Though I guess age is relative, and if you are 80 - maybe so Rolling on the floor laughing

Another reason for disbudding, other than larger blooms, is longer stems, which is my primary reason. Most of mine end up in vases.

Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Vegetable Grower Birds Region: United States of America
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gardenglassgems
Mar 6, 2015 8:02 AM CST
I do want to put some of my flowers in vases also. But if I pick them for vases, they won't be outside for me to admire when I am out there. I guess I just have to plant enough of them (All different kind of flowers) so I can take some inside to enjoy and still have some outside to admire. I think I will try disbudding a couple and see how that goes. Geof, I ordered 6 in a tree mail to you.
Yard decor, repurposing, and flowers,
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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pirl
Mar 6, 2015 9:22 AM CST
Geof - Don't forget that many of us older women felt Donald Rumsfeld was HOT and he wasn't a kid at the time!

Jeanne - it's a balancing act. We cut enough for vases and leave enough on the plants so we can enjoy them outside as well.
Name: Jeanne
Lansing, Iowa (Zone 5a)
Vegetable Grower Birds Region: United States of America
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gardenglassgems
Mar 6, 2015 9:01 PM CST
I hope that I have enough to cut some and admire some when outside. I stopped at Walmart and picked up 3 packages of 2 bulbs each. There are several tubers on each bulb. Can I plant them seperately and make more plants instead of planting each group (bulb) seperate? I got one each of dahlia ferncliff illusion, dahlia lucky number, and dahlia blue wish. Each says grows to 36-48". Does anyone know of these? I am excited to plant these new ones. You can believe that I will be remembering where these are planted. In the past (if you have read any other threads that I have commented on), I have not been good about remembering where what is planted where. Shrug!
Yard decor, repurposing, and flowers,
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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pirl
Mar 6, 2015 10:23 PM CST
You'd have to put them in a tray with some soil-less mix and wait for them to sprout to see what you get. Then you'd separate any additional tubers that might sprout. You will have to get a piece of the collar (where the tuber and stem meet) to have success.

Maybe, depending on color, you could plant them in alphabetical order. I am so glad I did that in the past! Many times I can't think of a name but if it's #2 in the group I can find it on my photo program. Do take photos when you get to plant them outside so you can mark the photos with the names.

I did manage to find this photo and under the row of white x marks you can see the flat surface where the tuber was carved off the stem. On the stem you can spot the indentation from cutting off the tuber (bottom row of x marks). That's what you'd need to get a plant from any other tubers that sprout (show green leaves) from the mother tuber.
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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pirl
Mar 6, 2015 10:53 PM CST
Dahlia Blue Wish: Dahlia 'Blue Wish'
Dahlia Lucky Number: Dahlia 'Lucky Number'
Dahlia Ferncliff Illusion: Dahlia 'Ferncliff Illusion'
Name: Geof
NW Wisconsin (Zone 4b)
Region: Wisconsin Dahlias Garden Ideas: Level 1 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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mandolls
Mar 7, 2015 7:08 AM CST
Its fine to use a sharpie to write the names on the tubers to help keep them sorted. I also tag mine twice. I bury a tag with the tubers (so I know it won't disappear ) and I tie a tag at the bottom of the plant once it is growing. Once you expand to 100 or more different dahlias there is no way to remember which is which, until they bloom, and even then thats a lot of different blooms to remember.

I trade and sell extra tubers, so its really important that I know the names. I admit that I have occasionally gotten tubers mixed up in the digging and dividing stage in the fall, but for the last couple of years, I seem to have managed to be organized enough to keep them all straight.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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pirl
Mar 7, 2015 8:38 AM CST
I also tag twice, Geof. The ones with wrong names often come from the big box stores. Last year the supposed Lady Darlene (2 of them) ended up being Pineland's Pam and another pink that might be Kalinka. That just plays havoc with colors.

Lynch Creek Dahlias used their own tags last year and I love them.
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Name: Geof
NW Wisconsin (Zone 4b)
Region: Wisconsin Dahlias Garden Ideas: Level 1 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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mandolls
Mar 7, 2015 11:05 AM CST
NIce to have an image on the tag!, Mine are just cut up window blinds scrawled with sharpie - not so lovely.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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pirl
Mar 7, 2015 11:13 AM CST
Only one tag faded but it still left enough information for identification. It's a huge help, especially on those chilly days as I dig.

I've used Venetian blind markers as well as craft sticks but the sticks end up breaking off at the bottom. I bought a lot of little white plastic tags and have them all labeled so they'll be attached to the bottom of the stem as double insurance. Labels, combined with maps and photos, are so helpful.

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