Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: Can someone help me identify these Succulents?

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Name: Aimee
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AimeeLane
Apr 18, 2015 8:29 PM CST
Hello,
So, I'm new to this forum and also new to growing Succulents.
Today I found these clippings at a very interesting nursery here in NY. I tried to ask the woman at the counter about them, but surprisingly she had very little knowledge about plants in general.

I was wondering if anyone could help me identify the plant clippings and also give me some advice on how to separate them and plant them in their own pots. I'm pretty sure this glass isn't the best place to keep them.
I hope the pictures are detailed enough.

Thanks!
Oh yeah, and any advice on how to keep them alive after they have been re-potted would be greatly appreciated too!
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As you can see, the roots are all tangled!
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karmatree
Apr 19, 2015 3:41 AM CST
Welcome! Aimee!

All the green things belong to the Sedum family. It looks like they've been deprived of light, because they are all kinda stretched out and leggy-looking (this is what succulents do when they are reaching for those UV rays)...These sedums like lots of light, and they need to get out of that glass for drainage because they don't like their roots to stay damp and muddy. I would keep them all together instead of trying unravel the roots right now. Get a bigger pot that has a drainage hole with some succulent soil. The sedums with spread around like a ground cover. I would water only when the soil is dry. Again, lots of light and make sure they stay warm! Sunshine is best!

After they've grown a bit, you can simply snip pieces of the sedums off and restart them in a new pot. Keep them relatively dry (mist only) until they grow their own roots. I probably have ten square feet of ground cover that I propagated from just one sedum plant!


Here's one sedum you have in there:
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And here's another (the bushy stuff behind the Gasteraloe, and BTW this sedum has been a ROCKSTAR in the garden...indestructible!):


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Name: Kate
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karmatree
Apr 19, 2015 3:42 AM CST
OH P.S....I have no idea what that pink thing is, sorry!!! I'm not sure that's a succulent plant....hopefully someone else can help there!
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Dutchlady1
Apr 19, 2015 3:57 AM CST
The 'Pink Thing' looks a lot like a ground cover we have lot here in Florida which is called 'Purple Queen' (Tradescantia pallida). Or a close relative.

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tarev
Apr 19, 2015 9:07 PM CST
I think the deep green sedum is Sedum rubrotinctum that has grown in a very shaded area so it is in a deep green color.
The one pointed out by Kate looks like Sedum sieboldii.
The taller growing succulent could be an echeveria.

For me, I prefer to group similar types of plants so I would remove the purple tropical plant, because it would need more water than the succulents. I would just gently tug it out from the group. You can just use regular potting soil for the tropical plant and use a container with drainage holes as well.

Just use a slightly wider but shallower container with drainage holes and use cacti/succulent mix for the succulents. Usually I even add extra perlite or pumice on the mix to really keep it well draining and open. Those sedums do not have a big root ball since they are still very young, and eventually they just grow them very shallow. They can take brighter light and warmer temps. If your temps are stable now like above 55F and higher, you can slowly introduce them outside, just be mindful if it rains too much, keep them in a protected but bright area.
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Apr 19, 2015 9:27 PM CST
Welcome! Aimee,

I believe the one with the reddish leaves will be a type of tradescantia zebrina. There are several and I think I see the hallmark of those metallic silver or pewter markings on the leaves. It's got several common names. It's water preferences are different from the succulents, so it'd be better separated and will do best with dappled light.

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purpleinopp
Apr 20, 2015 8:01 AM CST
Tradescantia zebrina will over-run the other plants. I wouldn't disturb the others to remove that, just snap it off. Let the severed end dry overnight, then it's ready for a pot of its' own. You can bury the cut end, or just lay it on the surface. It will take root either way.

The color depends on light exposure. That deep maroon color is its' tons-of-sun appearance. Commonly used in hanging baskets because of its' dangling habit.

(Sedum isn't a plant family, that genus is a member of the Crassulaceae family.)
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karmatree
Apr 20, 2015 9:41 AM CST
Sorry, I meant genus!
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Name: Aimee
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AimeeLane
Apr 20, 2015 10:27 AM CST
Thank you all for the great advice and welcomes!
I already have some succulent soil here for my Cacti seedlings, so I'll plant them in that. For my Cacti I usually mix the soil with sand and put river rocks at the bottom of the containers for drainage. Could I do that with these plants?
Our weather here on Long Island in NY is still really all over the place ( was 70 degrees last Wednesday, but dropped to 45 degrees the next day!) and the rain has been out of control. I have a grow light for my Cacti because my apartment doesn't have many sunny windows, should I put the cuttings under that after I've potted them?
I'll make sure to separate the Tradescantia zebrina from the others.
-And Kate, your plants look great!
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tarev
Apr 20, 2015 10:44 AM CST
Personally I do not like adding anymore sand in the succulent mix, since it may just turn too compacted later and the fine roots will just suffocate. I add some more perlite or pumice, to keep it open and well draining. I don't put river rocks at the bottom of my containers either..we all have our own preferences,some do it , some don't. I put a screen at the bottom hole though to save the soil.

If it is raining a lot and you have no protected area outdoors, then better have them indoors for now, till conditions improve and go warmer. Sure you can put them under growlights, just observe if the leaves are getting too toasted/dried up, you may have to adjust distance from the light. Cacti likes more light, these other succulents are okay with just bright/dappled light, so adjust the distance/location of your plants as needed.
Name: Aimee
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AimeeLane
Apr 20, 2015 10:56 AM CST
The first time I planted Cactus seeds I didn't do any research, I just kind of winged it with the sand and river rocks. It worked pretty well and has been ever since! Probably just luck lol. I have some older Cacti that seem to be happy, but I'll keep a look out for compacted sand like you've mentioned.
For these cuttings I'll pick up some perlite. Hopefully I'll have some luck with these too. :)

Thanks for the advice!
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tarev
Apr 20, 2015 11:19 AM CST
Cacti are fun to grow..during Spring once they are done with their cold weather dormancy and are mature enough, they do like some stepped up watering, and some makes blooms at this time too. Smiling And again..got to see that water drain nicely away.
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purpleinopp
Apr 20, 2015 12:18 PM CST
Kate, I figured that was probably the case. I sent you some acorns, for picking the gnat poo out of the pepper. Smiling
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Henhouse
Apr 20, 2015 7:01 PM CST
I think the one on the left, with the narrow leaves is Crassula tetragona. I agree w/ Tarev on the others except the taller one may be a Graptopetalum or one of the bi-generic hybrids like Graptoveria.

The Trandescantia will make a nice hanging house plant. We all had them back in the 70's (with our macrame plant hangers)... Smiling
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Name: Aimee
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AimeeLane
Apr 21, 2015 9:52 AM CST
I think after I have them in another pot and somewhat established to where they aren't growing all lanky and oddly I will post another picture of them in this thread.
That may make it easier to tell exactly what they are.
Hopefully I can keep them alive!

Henhouse, that's pretty funny. I need to look up how to make macrame plant hangers now!
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tarev
Apr 21, 2015 11:40 AM CST
Yes, take a lot of pictures..I do that often..sometimes the change in growth makes it hard to remember how they were before.

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