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Apr 26, 2015 8:18 PM CST
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
Not only did they chew through the entire stems worth of layered foliage above Angry - but they chewed through it at the bottom as well Grumbling - right where it comes out of the ground!!!
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Apr 26, 2015 8:38 PM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Ack!!! I've seen slug damage before, but never anything like that! They must have been having a family reunion on that plant!
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Apr 26, 2015 9:36 PM CST
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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That is bad, I know they love hosta but haven't seen any on my dls, thankfully! What do you use for them?
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Apr 26, 2015 9:47 PM CST
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
What do I use for slugs? What don't I use??? haha we have some hostas that have been absolutely shredded like this as well. does not make me happy! Crying
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Apr 26, 2015 9:52 PM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Jason, I just noticed where you live. I used to live in WA too. Slugs there are MONSTERS!!!
Natalie
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Apr 27, 2015 3:46 AM CST
Name: Cheryl
Western WA (Zone 8b)
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Bad here too, near Snohomish/Monroe.
A True gardener will purchase a thousand plants before thinking of where to put them :P
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Apr 27, 2015 4:15 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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I assume you caught the culprit red-handed so there's no question of the identity of the guilty party, Jason? Cutworms can do that too, and lopping plants off at the base is their typical modus operandi - damage higher up can be a climbing cutworm.
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Apr 27, 2015 4:41 AM CST
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
nope, you're right... im only assuming it was slugs. that seems to be everyones go to bad guy! ha

Whatever it was, ive never seen anything as bad as this. at least not on one specific stem on one specific plant!
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Apr 27, 2015 5:31 AM CST
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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Does the beer in a low dish work? I am a non drinker but would buy some if it helps. I have some wood ashes too. What about that?
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Apr 27, 2015 5:32 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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I have seen people use beer in a dish and it does work.
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Apr 27, 2015 6:39 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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If that daylily plant is anywhere near the size it looks in the photo, I would think mouse traps would be more in order than beer traps! Not saying it is mouse damage... but that the slugs are as big as mice.
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Apr 27, 2015 6:54 AM CST
Name: Julie C
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
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Slugs here have been more a problem with hosta than with daylilies. Over the years, I've tried all of the recommended remedies - crushed eggshells, beer in a dish, several commercial products, etc. and they all work to some extent but none had been totally effective. A hosta expert recommended a commercial product to me a couple of years ago and it has been the most effective by far - 'Slug Magic.' I was concerned that it not be attractive to animals as I have outdoor cats. This is sprinkled around but it isn't something that appeals to animals. For hostas, I use 3 applications in the spring, as the hosta person recommended, one when the pips are just pushing through, one when they're about 3' tall and the last when they're about 6". Here on the east coast, I can find Slug Magic at Southern States. You might see how this works with daylilies by sprinkling some around the base of the affected plants.
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Apr 27, 2015 7:37 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I have no way to determine the truth in this article, so I present it only as food for thought so to speak. Everything in this article could be true, or false. I did find it interesting and plausible. I would just suggest being careful with any poison around children and pets. I would certainly try to keep them out of an area that had any type of poison recently applied. First, info from slug magic, then the article .

Slug Magic Pellets:
Iron Phosphate 1.0% pelletized Patented, all weather formula makes slugs disappear! Biodegradable and safe for use around pets and wildlife, worms & beneficial. Slug Magic can be used in fruit and vegetable gardens up to the day of harvest.

Now a response to those claims:
http://www.hostalibrary.org/fi...
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Apr 27, 2015 8:03 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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riverman123 said:nope, you're right... im only assuming it was slugs. that seems to be everyones go to bad guy! ha

Whatever it was, ive never seen anything as bad as this. at least not on one specific stem on one specific plant!


That is so very typical of cutworm damage that I would scratch away an inch or two of the soil around the base of the fan and see if you can find one and remove it before it strikes again. Here's a pic:

http://www.extension.umn.edu/g...

Edited to add another pic showing the size of plant they can fell:
http://extension.entm.purdue.e...
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Apr 27, 2015 8:18 AM CST
Name: James
South Bend, IN (Zone 5b)
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sooby said:

That is so very typical of cutworm damage that I would scratch away an inch or two of the soil around the base of the fan and see if you can find one and remove it before it strikes again. Here's a pic:

http://www.extension.umn.edu/g...

Edited to add another pic showing the size of plant they can fell:
http://extension.entm.purdue.e...



Came to post exactly this. I had a problem with cutworms for a while and they can be a huge pain. I've never had a slug take a plant at the base like that. There isn't a good organic control method that I know of besides trying to get nematodes or BTK into the soil but that can take time. You can also think about attracting birds and putting a toad house or 2 in the garden. Or of course just use a systemic insecticide anywhere you see damage.
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Apr 27, 2015 9:02 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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JWWC said:
There isn't a good organic control method that I know of besides trying to get nematodes or BTK into the soil but that can take time.


Depends how many there are, often there are only a few and you can go on a rather satisfying search and destroy mission when they're curled up just under the soil surface snoozing during the day. The toilet/kitchen paper tubes/plastic cups with the bottoms cut out work as collars for single stem plants and maybe single fan daylilies but otherwise difficult to use in a daylily clump. Diatomaceous earth around the base of the plant/s under attack should work.
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Apr 27, 2015 9:28 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Black ground beetles are a good natural control for cutworms. I think there are several species of the beetles all commonly called 'black ground beetles'. If you handle them they kind of put off a strong odor that reminds me of ammonia, so I've called them ammonia beetles since I was a kid. In my experience, they do a good job of getting rid of cutworms. I was having a problem with cutworms and my place of employment had a nuisance problem with the beetles, so I started bringing them home and releasing them. You could see them dragging a cutworm around in the middle of the day.
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Apr 27, 2015 1:36 PM CST
Name: Pat
Near McIntosh, Florida (Zone 9a)
I had snails and slugs so bad one year that they literally paved the sidewalk.

Since I have dogs, I used an organic product called "Sluggo" or something like that,
and I've not had a problem since.
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Apr 27, 2015 1:56 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Sluggo is iron phosphate but does it contain EDTA? That extra ingredient appears to be the problem with dog poisonings from iron phosphate slug products. As well as the link Larry gave above, Dr. Jeff Gillman wrote a blog about the toxicity of iron phosphate products to dogs and earthworms here:

http://blogs.extension.org/gar...

Edit: checked the links in Dr.Gillman's blog and yes it does contain EDTA according to the research paper he linked to:
http://www.biosci.ohio-state.e...

while I'm at it might as well add the dog research link too:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com...
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Apr 27, 2015 2:17 PM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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I've never used Sluggo, but I've heard that it is totally safe to use around pets. I have never checked on that information myself though, so I'm not sure.

My slug cure was to put birdhouses up in my daylily garden. Haven't seen a slug since doing that!
Natalie

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