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Pedro Dot and the Pernetiana Roses

By zuzu
April 28, 2015

Pernetiana roses were in great demand in the first half of the 20th century, and although they have now been relegated to the hybrid tea class, many rosarians believe they should still be regarded as a class of their own.

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Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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ctcarol
Apr 28, 2015 1:01 PM CST
It's a shame these roses have disappeared from the trade. So pretty, and probably ideal for the southern states, or at least the South West. Love those last three photos!
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 28, 2015 2:20 PM CST

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It is a shame. They grow beautifully in California, and they're also said to grow well in South Africa and Australia.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 28, 2015 10:48 PM CST

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Well you know these are some of my favorite roses in your garden, I have always loved the wonderful combination of colors. Great article and blooms! Lovey dubby
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 28, 2015 11:07 PM CST

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Thanks, Sue. Smiling
Name: Leon
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TBGDN
Apr 29, 2015 7:33 AM CST
Stunning roses; great pictures! Thanks for sharing them.
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Name: Mike
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Calsurf73
Apr 29, 2015 8:30 AM CST
Really good article and photo's Zu !
It boggles my mind how much you know about roses and their history.
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Mustbnuts
Jul 9, 2018 8:31 AM CST
Ah, so much to learn! Thank you for posting this. I am finally getting a few seconds to sit down and read the great and informative article you wrote. I think the flowers are gorgeous and it is too bad they are not widely available as they would do great in my area. Makes me wish I had more space as they would make a beautiful rose garden. Hmmmm, it has me thinking. I applied for the master gardener program which starts in January. I think we have to have a project or something. One of the classes I created at our community college was a horticulture therapy program. Perhaps the college could give me a bit of earth to make a garden with these roses. I will definitely keep them in mind for this.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 9, 2018 11:41 AM CST

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That would be such an interesting project. Good luck!
Name: Arturo Tarak
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hampartsum
Jul 9, 2018 11:55 AM CST
@mustbnuts. What about adding some of the Italian breeders as well?. I received a sport of Signora Piero Puricelli, called Anvil Sparks ( Ambossfunken) developed in S.Africa, the original Signora was created by Domenico Aicardi. Apparently some US nurseries carry it. Signora, has Julien Potin and Souvenir de Claudius Pernet of the seed parent side, both pernetianas. I hope that you go ahead with your project.... Crossing Fingers! Whistling Arturo
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jul 9, 2018 3:52 PM CST

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Rose (Rosa 'Anvil Sparks') and Rose (Rosa 'Signora') in the database, Zuzu owns both, they are beautiful!
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Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
Jul 9, 2018 5:07 PM CST
Thank you so much Sue, an image greatly entices the appetite! nodding Arturo
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Mustbnuts
Jul 9, 2018 7:41 PM CST
Thank you Arturo! I am very ignorant regarding Italian rose breeders. The two roses that you mention are just beautiful! I love how these roses just seem to glow with their colors and that the colors seem to "bleed" from one color to another color on the petals. Love that!
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
Jul 10, 2018 3:07 AM CST
Hi @Mustbnuts, one starts one's searches by first recognizing that there's much more out there. So perhaps these short exchanges will stimulate you in that direction...Thanks to Internet, the world is slowly( or perhaps not so slowly) changing making options viable and closer to our expectations. We can get access to much more than what we imagine initially. Obstacles of every kind pop up first but if one keep's persevering the solutions will appear. I'll try out the search for those breeders amongst your kin. I'll keep you posted. Arturo

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