ATP Podcast #88: Celebrating Roses: Seriously, great podcast!

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ATP Podcast #88: Celebrating Roses

By dave
April 30, 2015

Hybrid Teas, Floribundas, Albas, Grandifloras, etc etc etc. What do they all mean? In today's episode, Trish shares from her depths of knowledge about the various kinds of roses, and you're sure to be inspired. After that we have an interesting discussion about this new fad where companies unnecessarily label their plants as "non-GMO."

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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Apr 30, 2015 10:28 AM CST

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Loved it you two, nice coverage of a few of the different classes of roses as well and comfrey, GMO and other chat!

I don't grow many hybrid teas as I prefer the cluster blooms of the floribunda roses as opposed to one bloom per stem as is usual for hybrid teas. But not all hybrid teas are single stem blooms. One of my absolute favorite roses I grow, (a gift from Zuzu) is Rose (Rosa 'Helen Hayes')
It grows tall and lanky, more so as I have it planted in half day shade but the blooms are glorious! So many shades of pink, yellow and apricot and they are huge and I always describe them as blousey, whatever that means. Hilarious!



Here is my shot showing how it has a cluster grouping and one from Zuzu:



And for those who listened to the end, you will understand. Green Grin!
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Apr 30, 2015 12:17 PM CST

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Thank you Sue! That's a beautiful rose and I've added it to my wish list. I'll grab it next time I have a chance. Glad you liked the podcast. Smiling
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Apr 30, 2015 3:08 PM CST

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I also thoroughly enjoyed the podcast, but Trish shouldn't be surprised by the news of a hybrid tea that's 6 feet tall. I didn't get around to pruning most of my hybrid teas this year, and now some of them are 10-12 feet tall.
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Apr 30, 2015 3:17 PM CST

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It shows our lack of experience, we just don't grow any hybrid teas! But we'll be adding them to our collection soon enough. Smiling
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Apr 30, 2015 4:06 PM CST

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I just checked Trish's plant list and there are two hybrid teas on it: Heirloom and Savannah.

If you're going to get more, you might want to start with Lafter. It's highly popular in the south because it's heat resistant, humidity resistant, drought resistant, etc. It must grow really well in Texas because it's one of the few hybrid teas Chamblee's offers.

Rose (Rosa 'Lafter')
Name: Dave Whitinger
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Apr 30, 2015 4:10 PM CST

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I am very familiar with both Heirloom and Savannah but didn't realize that those were hybrid teas. I'm learning a lot this week. Smiling I'm going to go outside and look at them for a bit. I know Heirloom is a beautiful rose and is one of Trish's very favorites.

I've added Lafter to my list. Thank you for the recommendation!!
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Apr 30, 2015 6:37 PM CST

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Both of those have really struggled for me, actually. They are the puniest ones in the rose garden. I had forgotten they were teas.
They only pruning I've done is all the dead wood, and they are about 3 1/2 feet tall, but the boom on Heirloom is one of my favs! I will say that both of those are also on own-root, so that may be the issue there.... Shrug!

Thanks for the other recommendations, Zuzu and Sue!
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Name: Zuzu
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Apr 30, 2015 6:45 PM CST

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Try ordering some of Palatine's grafted hybrid teas, Trish. Rainbow Niagara is one they offer every year, and mine from Palatine is among this year's "10-footers."

Rose (Rosa 'Rainbow Niagara')

Most hybrid teas don't grow well on their own roots. Lafter and Helen Hayes do perform well on their own roots, so you don't have to worry about finding grafted specimens of those.
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treehugger
May 2, 2015 7:00 AM CST
It is so GREAT to hear a couple enjoy each other and share interests. We should all be so lucky.
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May 2, 2015 3:16 PM CST

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True, treehugger! It's certainly wonderful to be married to my best friend! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
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treehugger
May 9, 2015 6:19 AM CST
I know how you feel, there is noting better in ones' life. Enjoy.

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